My 2 cents, which isn't worth a dime is this:

1) prepbullseye adds value to the forum and I appreciate their input.
2) I understand they may rub some the wrong way, but we all can do that to each other. I know some do to me, but they can offer good value. Just look past it.

And there it goes again.

Sorry guys, from the few times I've visited your site, it looks like you have some good info on some of the lesser-hyped players who don't get a lot of coverage otherwise. But as far as the top prospects, your thoughts and opinions are usually pretty obvious to any moderately informed fan. Just my .02. Best of luck to you though.

+1. Some folks on this board look forward to these confrontations with the Bro's.

Not suggesting he should be anointed. Of course, only time will tell how MT is perceived. Just saying that in his short reign, he's done well. Far more accessible than his cloistered predecessor, has done what he's needed to do and hasn't put his foot in his mouth (AFAIK, anyway). I'm about as far removed from the big money boosters as can be, but w/references to big $ packages, it seems that MT has done significant legwork there too.

The overriding message that mediocrity is not OK is more than OK with me.

That's what I said...LOL. Nice post.

+1

Can't worry about 1 recruit and 1 year that he may stay. This has to be a longer term goal for the program. Can't we learn from the Richmond fiasco.
One recruit isn't worth the headaches.

Nice find, K. Sounds good on the recruiting front.

How about from a coaching standpoint?

Without knowing any more, I'm thinking if Theus shows up at MT's door in his trademark fur coat, and it's orange, I'd talk to him. :D

ROTFL (good thing I didn't have anything in my mouth). This could snowball like LVG. Calling all Photoshop people.

I'm with everyone here. Can't make a coaching decision based on one recruit who might, and probably won't come to the school regardless. Even if that recruit is arguably the highest touted recruit since Baby Bron Bron. It's unfortunate that Sonny Parker would come out and say that, especially considering that he has no idea who the new coach will be. I can't imagine them turning down an opportunity to at least hear out the new coach. If his interest in Illinois is legitimate, and his interest in playing for the state school is as well, it wouldn't make sense for him to base his decision regarding Illinois purely on Weber. But whatever. Sonny Parker's thoughts will have no bearing on the future of the coaching staff so all of it is moot.

+2 Seriously. Agree.

I agree but we can't ignore the fact that others from the state of Illinois would be drawn to playing with JP if he stays home. These players could be the bigger pieces to the puzzle. There is value on both sides of the coin.

Nice piece on Bruce Weber and his plight ...........

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...?sct=cb_t12_a1

Gambling the future of the program for one recruit is like hitting on 16 in black jack. Sure you might get a 5 or less, but you are far more likely to bust than to hit 21.

I heard Bob Knight has felt so bad for the Illinois program during this season that he is interested in coming out of retirement to put Meyers Leonard under the basket. :p:illinois:

Interesting take, but nothing ground breaking. It is a sad thing, but this BIG 10 basketball.

I like BW and how he has run this program, but his coaching has left quite a bit to be desired over the last few years. His pressers alone this year probably would have sunk him, but sadly it's a mixture of the players he recruited and his inability to adapt his system to their talents that will be his demise.

Once again I hope he does well wherever he lands, but it is most certainly a time for change.

A quickie

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7199/6...fc145e98_z.jpg

:clappy:

That was a good article... Thanks for the link... :illinois:

I agree; great article and pretty much sums up how I feel about this whole thing.

Unless I missed something: Disappointed.

He does not mention recruiting (outside of the debacle of you know who), which I think is what got Weber into trouble. Weber changed in some fundamental ways, but did not recruit his type of player, perhaps until last year.

Then he mentions "but you could see Weber's firing coming for three years." The reason - totally unrelated to Weber - other B1G schools hiring great coaches.

I agree with Klee, for better or worse, we ALL need a change.

The less we analyze the situation the better. It is far better to let the dust settle. Anything more will create more dust. And that helps no one.

http://twitter.com/#!/SethDavisHoops

Never know with Twitter, but interesting retweet by Seth Davis.

Well, I just saw the first "inside" source that suggests Shaka to Illinois on HQ.

Who knows if the guy is legit but hey, one can hope. Plus, with the recent Seth Davis twitter comment, I'm really feeling good about our chances.

http://forums.illinihq.com/topic/22835-new-coach/

Right now we are living off hopes and dreams. I can't help but be excited about the rumors.

I would def. go to your site, if I saw facts and how you got them here (not a knock, just the honest truth). I think most of the guys in here would agree, Im constantly googling and would love a "proven" Illinois website to "stalk" outside Illinois loyalty (even though the government has blocked illinoisloyalty on our computers, I think its a conspiracy haha).

Speaking of stalking, I went to one of the VCU fan forums and came away with two things

1. Illinois fans are not looked upon highly there ( Think of how we felt with Bill Selfish)

2. Their fans do not have a very high basketball IQ (one post asked why shaka smart would want to go to Illinois where football is the focal point haha)

To give that poster the benefit of the doubt. Most high-major schools are far more devoted to their football program then their BB program. Case in point even with all their success in BB, tOSU basketball program will never come close to their football program.

I would guess that they would just assume that is the way all BIG schools work.