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Old Dec 17, 2012, 03:30 PM   #2
DaytonIllini
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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32 View Post
Really? You're going to say that the reason we all need guys is because the founding fathers fought a war to gain their independence? Really?

And you're going to compare the U.S. having strict gun laws to:
1) A Turkish country that was in a war during the 2 years you listed (convenient you left that out)

2) Communist Russia?

3) Nazi Germany (Really?!)

4) Communist China led by Mao Zedong?

5) 3rd world Guatemala killing a bunch of people during a revolt of their government?

6 and 7) Two African 3rd world countries that have been killing each other for years and in which gun laws will never have any effect.

Not on of these arguments is valid or in any way indicative of what would happen in American with stricter gun laws.

Plus, you're just throwing out a bunch of numbers with no time-frame attached or any mention of the state of the country before or after. These are just wild, random comparisons you're making in an effort to say more people need guns.
How do you know?

Germany was one of the most civilized countries in the world in the 20's and early 30's. They were a center for learning. They had significant economic problems but they were not some 3rd world country. When the Nazi's rose to power people had every opportunity to get out but there were always people like you standing around saying 'it couldn't happen here."

You'll forgive me if I disagree.

The real point though is that there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of gun control laws passing the Democratic controlled Senate much less the Republican controlled House. How long would Manchin in West Va or Missouri or Montana's Democratic senators last? Even a True Blue state like Connecticut has pretty open laws.

We are moving away, not towards strict gun control and that is a good thing.

That doesn't mean that we couldn't tighten up gun laws with regards to private sales and gun shows. Or that we couldn't hold people responsible for crimes committed with improperly maintained weapons. Or that we couldn't tax bullets at $1 a pop or something similar to offset some of the societal costs of gun ownership.

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