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Old Jan 10, 2018, 09:38 AM   #251
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Wouldn't mind seeing us offering this kid...Marlon Taylor Panola JC. St Bonaventure/Bradley/Fresno St. some notables that originally recruited him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUTJDM8QE2I

Claims a 50" vertical, can shoot the three and looks to have a big time motor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT3MSVxCGkQ
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 09:58 AM   #252
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It was really just throwing Finke a bone, rather than coming right out and saying, as a junior, he's not even Archibald's caliber when Archibald was a freshman. I'm also not sure how Arch's stats mapped out over conf. vs. non-conf his senior year, but it's not really the point anyway.
Whoa whoa whoa...I love Arch. But let's not kid ourselves into what he was as a freshman. He improved greatly over 4 years. He started out his freshman year impressively but soon looked awkward and tentative and confused. He looked like a freshman. His footwork improved tremendously.
So to say that Arch as a freshman is better than Finke as a junior is just not accurate. Besides, they are very different kinds of players.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 10:20 AM   #253
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Even though we all like Finke, if he's not scoring, he's of little use on the floor. Right now, I believe Ebo can get as many rebounds, and he simply cannot be worse on defense. Finke's upside was as a mismatch 5 that could draw his man out and/or nail the three.

I am in favor of the stop-gap of a 5th year big who will then leave a vacancy for (hopefully) Okoro, or any other big that makes a jump. Ebo and a 5th year would probably be enough to make a significant difference next year...if the 5th is any good...at least at rim protection.

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Old Jan 10, 2018, 11:01 AM   #254
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Even though we all like Finke, if he's not scoring, he's of little use on the floor. Right now, I believe Ebo can get as many rebounds, and he simply cannot be worse on defense. Finke's upside was as a mismatch 5 that could draw his man out and/or nail the three.

I am in favor of the stop-gap of a 5th year big who will then leave a vacancy for (hopefully) Okoro, or any other big that makes a jump. Ebo and a 5th year would probably be enough to make a significant difference next year...if the 5th is any good...at least at rim protection.
This is all correct.

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Old Jan 10, 2018, 11:20 AM   #255
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UIHoopsRecruits‏ @UIHoopsRecruits 3h3 hours ago
UIHoopsRecruits Retweeted Rivals.com

Bossi says EJ Liddell poised to make one of the biggest rankings jumps in 2019; also mentions new offer Lester Quinones & Jaemyn Brakefield

Rivals.com‏Verified account @Rivals 5h5 hours ago

BOSSI'S BEST: This week, @ebosshoops focuses on HS sophomores & juniors whose stock is rising rapidly: http://rvls.co/Best0103
Not sure what he was before this most recent update (thought it was in the 90s) but he's at #42 now. Huge jump as expected.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 11:39 AM   #256
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Whoa whoa whoa...I love Arch. But let's not kid ourselves into what he was as a freshman. He improved greatly over 4 years.
this, there is a difference between a big that is ready to play as a freshman & a freshman big who plays a lot because you have no other choice. If we don't add a freshman big this year, then a freshman big or likely 2 will be playing a lot in 2019. Egwu, Morgan, Colbert, even Leonard all played more minutes than they were ready for as a freshman, but it was as at least as a limited backup. In 2019 we have Greg, Matic, and Kipper that can even pretend to be bigs. Without a big in 2018, we have to get a couple Okoro/Liddell level bigs in 2019. A Grad transfer just kicks the can down the road to next year, we may have to do that, but it should be plan B
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 11:43 AM   #257
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Not sure what he was before this most recent update (thought it was in the 90s) but he's at #42 now. Huge jump as expected.
Much more accurate assessment, IMO. He'll have the opportunity to move even further up during AAU season.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 11:55 AM   #258
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NEW & UPDATED 2019 #Rivals150 Rankings
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....-big-decisions
https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2019

4. Anthony
10. Watford
13. Lecque
32. Stewart
33. Igiehon
34. Okoro
38. Cockburn
42. Liddell
50. Hall
51. Carton
54. Timme
74. McKinney
77. Massoud
81. Quinones
82. Whitney
92. Wong
112. Days

https://twitter.com/UIHoopsRecruits/...48579204288512
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 12:25 PM   #259
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NEW & UPDATED 2019 #Rivals150 Rankings
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....-big-decisions
https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2019

4. Anthony
10. Watford
13. Lecque
32. Stewart
33. Igiehon
34. Okoro
38. Cockburn
42. Liddell
50. Hall
51. Carton
54. Timme
74. McKinney
77. Massoud
81. Quinones
82. Whitney
92. Wong
112. Days

https://twitter.com/UIHoopsRecruits/...48579204288512
The big jump for Liddell just proves what many of us already said. By July or August we will be fighting off the whole country for Liddell and Okoro. This board is going to go crazy during the ups and downs of these 2 recruitments, and I'm going to love every minute of it.

Going on a late season run is so important this year. We need some momentum in the program to help fight off the blue bloods and Cuonzo.

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Old Jan 10, 2018, 12:56 PM   #260
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The big jump for Liddell just proves what many of us already said. By July or August we will be fighting off the whole country for Liddell and Okoro. This board is going to go crazy during the ups and downs of these 2 recruitments, and I'm going to love every minute of it.

Going on a late season run is so important this year. We need some momentum in the program to help fight off the blue bloods and Cuonzo.
Yessir. Gonna be a wild ride.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 01:21 PM   #261
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Drop 60 pts in a game -> drop 4 spots in the rankings. Makes perfect sense.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 01:48 PM   #262
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Wouldn't mind seeing us offering this kid...Marlon Taylor Panola JC. St Bonaventure/Bradley/Fresno St. some notables that originally recruited him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUTJDM8QE2I

Claims a 50" vertical, can shoot the three and looks to have a big time motor?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT3MSVxCGkQ


Sign him up!


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Old Jan 10, 2018, 02:54 PM   #263
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Not directly Illini related, but fun to take note of anyway is Missouri just lost one of the guys that Cuonzo Martin poached from the University of Washington when Porter quit after Romar was fired.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...issouri-tigers

Looks like he's moving on to the latest bandwagon that'll have him.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 03:21 PM   #264
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Not directly Illini related, but fun to take note of anyway is Missouri just lost one of the guys that Cuonzo Martin poached from the University of Washington when Porter quit after Romar was fired.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...issouri-tigers

Looks like he's moving on to the latest bandwagon that'll have him.
He's from North Carolina. That's where I expected him to go in the first place.

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Old Jan 10, 2018, 04:09 PM   #265
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ESPN saying Brian Bowen to SC.


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Old Jan 10, 2018, 04:23 PM   #266
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Lol, I feel like I've been bait and switched. Anyway, I still stand by my original comment that we could use recruits like Archibald and Krupalija, even at their freshman skill level(s). Felt like a pretty innocuous comment at the time - guess I was wrong!
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 05:11 PM   #267
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ESPN saying Brian Bowen to SC.


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Man.....I wouldn't touch this kid with a 10 foot pole.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 05:17 PM   #268
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Hell, I'd settle for (my favorite all time Illini and the reason I always pick #22) Lucas Johnson. And he only averaged 5&3 for his career.

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Old Jan 10, 2018, 06:47 PM   #269
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SC being South Carolina in this instance.

Man.....I wouldn't touch this kid with a 10 foot pole.
Since we're linked to Cherry, I've been thinking about the potential ramifications of taking the kids that got caught up in the FBI sting. To me, it seems like the worst thing that can happen is that the player is ruled ineligible. Assuming you operate above-board when recruiting them, your program isn't at fault for dumb things they did while being recruited by someone else.

Maybe I'm missing something and SC is taking a bigger risk, but it seems like decent risk-reward for a program like that.

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Old Jan 10, 2018, 06:53 PM   #270
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Hell, I'd settle for (my favorite all time Illini and the reason I always pick #22) Lucas Johnson. And he only averaged 5&3 for his career.
Oh he'd be a difference maker on this team for sure.
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 07:05 PM   #271
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What's the deal with Cherry? Are we actively involved?
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 07:13 PM   #272
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Per Pipers twitter we will host Mississippi State transfer big man Schnider Herard starting tomorrow. 2016 top 50 prospect would be eligible 2nd semester next year.

https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/951247095582920704
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 07:17 PM   #273
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Anyone have the dope on Schnider Herard? Seems like something would have to happen pretty fast for him to be eligible 2nd semester next year right?
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Old Jan 10, 2018, 07:27 PM   #274
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Per Pipers twitter we will host Mississippi State transfer big man Schnider Herard starting tomorrow. 2016 top 50 prospect would be eligible 2nd semester next year.

https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/951247095582920704
This tells me staff is getting desperate.

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Old Jan 10, 2018, 07:29 PM   #275
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This tells me staff is getting desperate.
Oh, a guy that was rated #47 composite that is 6'10" 260, who had offers from Kansas and Arizona amongst many others, and was averaging 5 and 5 as a true freshmen in 18 mpg is a sign of desperation?

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