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Old Jan 11, 2018, 08:18 AM   #301
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How does it not hurt with Okoro? Another big to compete with...
Well being that we lose Finke and Black, there is a massive hole at the 5 spot in 2019. ANY team that Okoro joins would have players in front of him as a freshman, but here all he would have is a junior Ebo and a junior Herard. No other soph or seniors at those spots. Still can come in and easily play his way in, and on top of it, no player of his caliber should be scared by that. Plus BU has shown he is not afraid to play freshmen at all.

Regardless, you don't build your team around a player who isn't even committed yet. BU's job is on the line if he loses, he wont leave it up to chance to have 0 back up at the 5.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 08:24 AM   #302
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How does it not hurt with Okoro? Another big to compete with...
Considering Okoro apparently really likes UNC, I really doubt he'd be scared off by a transfer from Mississippi State.

If our talent level is such that virtually any of our recruiting targets can feel safe about coming in and starting right away, then it's not good enough. And if our talent level isn't good enough, we're not going to win.

More talent / more competition = always better than less talent / less competition.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 08:35 AM   #303
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Its the same thing that Kipper has -1 year. So Kipper came in half way through last season as a RS freshman. So if he played 1.5 years at Miss State he would come in as a RS soph halfway though next season.
He'd be a junior next season. Playing a half season this year uses up his sophomore year.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 08:41 AM   #304
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He'd be a junior next season. Playing a half season this year uses up his sophomore year.
O duh right, Kipper just enrolled but never played. So yes, only 1.5 years left. Thanks!
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 08:42 AM   #305
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He played 1.5 years at Miss State. I'm not sure how it works, but I assume he would have 2.5 years of eligibility left, right?
He would have used his freshman and sophomore years and have two years remaining. And I would think those two years would really be 1.5 if he enrolled immediately and played in the second half of the 2018 season. That would be his junior year with the following being his senior year.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 08:54 AM   #306
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Per Pipers twitter we will host Mississippi State transfer big man Schnider Herard starting tomorrow. 2016 top 50 prospect would be eligible 2nd semester next year.

https://twitter.com/DPiper247/status/951247095582920704
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 09:13 AM   #307
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would he be eligible?
5th year Grad.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 10:11 AM   #308
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How does it not hurt with Okoro? Another big to compete with...
I don't think Herard really fits our system, too slow. He will provide another big body and should help with defense and rebounding. We can't have bigs like Minnesota's just dominate the paint on us.

Okoro fits our system well, he can run, defend, board, and a developing shot.

Okoro will start over Herard.

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 10:20 AM   #309
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Lmao @ Illini fan neuroticism:
"We need bigs! Now!"

Recruiting news of a big: "He doesn't fit our system. We need other types of bigs."

After watching Spicy G the last two games, I'll withhold my judgement of what this guy could be. Just go get him.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 10:45 AM   #310
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Lmao @ Illini fan neuroticism:
"We need bigs! Now!"

Recruiting news of a big: "He doesn't fit our system. We need other types of bigs."

After watching Spicy G the last two games, I'll withhold my judgement of what this guy could be. Just go get him.
He doesn't fit our system, he is slow and doesn't shoot well.

However, he is a monster and can do some very good things on the block. More importantly we desperately need bigs. So he'd be a great get.

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 10:49 AM   #311
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I would not mind a class of

Ayo, Marlon Taylor, and Schnider Herard. Ayo will come in right away ready, Taylor would be the same, with athleticism and able to play 2 spots we desperately need as well, and Herard would be ready by B1G play at an interior position with minutes as well if not more after a year of Fletcher condintioning...

So to recap with this option:

5***** Guard
Former 2**, most athletic JC player considering ILLINI, no offer?
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/marlontaylor

Former 4****, Plenty playing time available.

This class address' each need we NOW have to some extent, also gives us players that can contribute ASAP until hopefully we get Liddell and Okoro to join the ranks!

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 10:55 AM   #312
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He doesn't fit our system, he is slow and doesn't shoot well.

However, he is a monster and can do some very good things on the block. More importantly we desperately need bigs. So he'd be a great get.

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Lol, so it doesn't matter that he "doesn't fit our system". Pointless.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:12 AM   #313
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He's from North Carolina. That's where I expected him to go in the first place.

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NC State

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/c...193949154.html
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:16 AM   #314
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Lol, so it doesn't matter that he "doesn't fit our system". Pointless.
I get the sentiment...Underwood has also said something about diversity and liking different pieces...a true big is a different piece for us right now, our offense will give him some post up opportunities so I think we can find a place in our system for him
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:23 AM   #315
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Illinois was in tonight to watch Austin Trice (6’7, F, 2018) of Wabash Valley
https://twitter.com/JucoRecruiting/s...15301345480704
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:35 AM   #316
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Illinois was in tonight to watch Austin Trice (67, F, 2018) of Wabash Valley
https://twitter.com/JucoRecruiting/s...15301345480704
Chicago area player who leads the nation in rebounding per game.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:42 AM   #317
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Chicago area player who leads the nation in rebounding per game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvTE1fHO9WE

Looks really athletic, too. Not gonna lie, I really, really like his game.

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:47 AM   #318
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My only concerned would be he seems pretty slow and he can't really shoot. Not sure how he fits our more uptempo system, but he certainly would be a force in the paint.

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:52 AM   #319
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Considering Okoro apparently really likes UNC, I really doubt he'd be scared off by a transfer from Mississippi State.

If our talent level is such that virtually any of our recruiting targets can feel safe about coming in and starting right away, then it's not good enough. And if our talent level isn't good enough, we're not going to win.

More talent / more competition = always better than less talent / less competition.
Good points.

I have to laugh at ourselves sometimes. Player X is afraid of a three star at Illinois but has no problem competing (or even sitting) against a five star at School Y

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:54 AM   #320
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Lol, so it doesn't matter that he "doesn't fit our system". Pointless.
Who is out there that wants to come? It's not like Underwood is swimming in choices here.

We need someone over 6'6" to help keep people off Leron.

Have you watched any of our games this year? Have you seen the pace we play at? Have you seen Finke and black inside and outside?

Now watch any of herards videos. Seen him further than 5 feet from the hoop? Does he run well? (He does have a really quick spin move) seen him shoot it at all?

The reality is, if he plays it will be in stints or we will have to slow the pace. So will he help, yah. Will he scare Okoro, I highly doubt it.

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 11:55 AM   #321
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This tells me staff is getting desperate.
Shouldn't they be? I would be made if they weren't.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 12:06 PM   #322
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvTE1fHO9WE

Looks really athletic, too. Not gonna lie, I really, really like his game.
Sign me up.
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Old Jan 11, 2018, 12:08 PM   #323
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Chicago area player who leads the nation in rebounding per game.
Wow. He is tenacious on the glass.

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 12:14 PM   #324
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I'd take Herard and Josh Cunningham with Ayo and be extremely pleased.

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Old Jan 11, 2018, 12:18 PM   #325
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One in the hand, yadda yadda yadda.

Here's a crazy point of view: what if you don't get Okoro and pass on the transfer? then where are we?
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