Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

Madturkillini · Oct 16, 2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

I received several emails this morning about this. Evidently it was posted on another board. I don't see how Lyle is suddenly interested in commiting to us after visiting UK and two weeks prior to his visit with us. It makes no sense and seems to be a rumor.

Why not? Maybe he didn't like his UK visit, is it impossible? Or he wants to get an offer from UK really fast, and decided to use Illinois and some other schools for that. These are unlikely but possible scenarios.

IrishTerryConklin · Oct 16, 2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PaytonHighstep

I understand. I guess my point is that he had a relationship with a top player from 2013 (Nunn), so I would expect he hasn't just contacted 2/3 star types. I don't think he cared if they were 4/5 stars, he was going to recruit them to Ohio and try to get them.

We are on the same page, just looking at it differently I guess. Either way, it will take some time to get the big fish to Illinois, but not as long as it would have taken for him to get them to Ohio.

I'm sure he recruited anyone he thought he could get I just don't think there were many 5 star players that would pay much attention to the coach of Ohio and he wasn't going to spend too much time working those kids. I'm sure he knew many of them and that helped but most of the kids he presumably was spending his time on aren't Big Ten level kids, Nunn being the exception. I would assume once he took the job he set his sights higher and only continued recruiting the kids that he considered Big Ten quality in addition to starting to work on new relationships. I definitely agree that no matter how good he was he wasn't likely going to pull in top recruits on a regular basis at Ohio while he should be able to do so to Illinois.

IrishTerryConklin · Oct 16, 2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

I received several emails this morning about this. Evidently it was posted on another board. I don't see how Lyle is suddenly interested in commiting to us after visiting UK and two weeks prior to his visit with us. It makes no sense and seems to be a rumor.

When did he visit UK?

BrooksTaylorFan · Oct 16, 2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Madturkillini

Why not? Maybe he didn't like his UK visit, is it impossible? Or he wants to get an offer from UK really fast, and decided to use Illinois and some other schools for that. These are unlikely but possible scenarios.

Honestly. Do any of those scenerios sound likely? Why would he suddenly be ready to commit to us prior to his IU and Illinois visits? The last thing any high school recruit is going to do is try to show up Calipari or another top school. Even I am not that optimistic.

BrooksTaylorFan · Oct 16, 2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishTerryConklin

When did he visit UK?

He was at UK's MM on Friday and will be at UI's Hoops Hysteria this weekend. Then he visits us on the 27th.

Foo G · Oct 16, 2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishTerryConklin

When did he visit UK?

Last weekend for their Big Blue Madness (or whatever they call it), along with Cliff Alexander, Trey Lyles, and several other high profile recruits.

whitesxfan2012 · Oct 16, 2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishTerryConklin

When did he visit UK?

Big Blue Madness this past Friday night I do believe. He was there along with Big Cliff

ChiCityHoops34 · Oct 16, 2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

Honestly. Do any of those scenerios sound likely? Why would he suddenly be ready to commit to us prior to his IU and Illinois visits? The last thing any high school recruit is going to do is try to show up Calipari or another top school. Even I am not that optimistic.

KBD rings a bell. Show up isnt the right word but having the chance to turn them down, maybe.

That said, KBD and lyle are completely different recruitments and i dont see lyle turning down UK if they offer. If he does itll be crean vs patino.

Hope im wrong because he is a stud, but seems were trailing behind quite a bit

MitchFromAtwood · Oct 16, 2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeAndBlue217

Groce isnt turning the program around so to speak. its not broken. its stalled, maybe has a broken ankle if you will. now Groce just has to mend that ankle and get us un stalled and booming in the express lane. as this happens, recruits fall in line. people are greatly under estimating our current players, because they have been driving a Smart Car, when they are built to be dodge Challengers

+10000000! Our kids have talent. We've seen it in spurts. I just think we needed a guy who could get the most out of our kids, and I think this system will lend itself to that.

illini 4 ever · Oct 16, 2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TEYPAY

If you don't think they are insiders or give you good info, ignore them..... Pretty simple. For the rest of us, thanks for the info and input.

IlliniRunIn07 · Oct 16, 2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

Honestly. Do any of those scenerios sound likely? Why would he suddenly be ready to commit to us prior to his IU and Illinois visits? The last thing any high school recruit is going to do is try to show up Calipari or another top school. Even I am not that optimistic.

To be fair, he conceded that they were unlikely scenarios.

ctblaisdell83 · Oct 16, 2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Foo G

An improved Mike Shaw might go a long way, though.
I doubt that either Colbert or Moore will be able to step in crack the rotation right away.

Good point. Even tho we have not seen much yet from Mike Shaw, there is a reasonable expectation that a JR year Shaw will be more ready to contribute than good (but not elite) freshmen.

This requires Shaw to stick around and progress...which would be good for us

BrooksTaylorFan · Oct 16, 2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiCityHoops34

KBD rings a bell. Show up isnt the right word but having the chance to turn them down, maybe.

That said, KBD and lyle are completely different recruitments and i dont see lyle turning down UK if they offer. If he does itll be crean vs patino.

Hope im wrong because he is a stud, but seems were trailing behind quite a bit

KBD's comment was taken out of context. He wants to go through the process and visit top schools to see what they are about and to increase his visibility nationally. He's not out to spurn UK or any other school like the rumor says. Like Salty said, lots of false info being spread around.

Foo G · Oct 16, 2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiCityHoops34

KBD rings a bell. Show up isnt the right word but having the chance to turn them down, maybe.

That said, KBD and lyle are completely different recruitments and i dont see lyle turning down UK if they offer. If he does itll be crean vs patino.

Hope im wrong because he is a stud, but seems were trailing behind quite a bit

Maybe so, but Coach Groce has shown the ability to make up ground quickly.
I think it's more than enough time to give us a legit chance with Lyle.

BrooksTaylorFan · Oct 16, 2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniRunIn07

To be fair, he conceded that they were unlikely scenarios.

True, but those scenarios are as likely as Parker coming to Illinois all of a sudden.

Madturkillini · Oct 16, 2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

Honestly. Do any of those scenerios sound likely? Why would he suddenly be ready to commit to us prior to his IU and Illinois visits? The last thing any high school recruit is going to do is try to show up Calipari or another top school. Even I am not that optimistic.

I already said it is unlikely, your first question is redundant

And I didn't say 'he may be ready to commit to us'. All I'm saying is he actually might be considering us, or might be pretending considering us.

thenoodler · Oct 16, 2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Madturkillini

All I'm saying is he actually might be considering us, or might be pretending considering us.

Well, that's cause for celebration!

zpfled · Oct 16, 2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

True, but those scenarios are as likely as Parker coming to Illinois all of a sudden.

So you're saying there's a chance?!

BrooksTaylorFan · Oct 16, 2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Madturkillini

I already said it is unlikely, your first question is redundant

And I didn't say 'he may be ready to commit to us'. All I'm saying is he actually might be considering us, or might be pretending considering us.

Lyle likes Groce and he's definitely considering Illinois. Groce is behind and trying to catch up and his visit on the 27th is very important in doing so. It's just that nothing has changed in the last few days that has Lyle ready to commit to us like the rumor says.

Lyle did show up on campus several times this summer to scrimmage and work out with the team. He could also come in and start at PG from Day One at Illinois which is a big sell. Does that happen at UK or IU. Not likely. Getting KBD on board goes a long way towards landing Lyle.

BrooksTaylorFan · Oct 16, 2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zpfled

So you're saying there's a chance?!

All you are missing is the pic of Jim Carrey from Dumb and Dumber. :laugh:

Foo G · Oct 16, 2012, 01:30 PM

Dustin Ford must be working his traveling salesman job in Ohio...

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Rodger Bohn ‏@rodgerbohn 6'9 2015 Carlton Bragg of Cleveland VASJ picked up offer from Illinois today,per his HS coach.Bragg had outstanding @CoachJohnLucas1 camp

I though Bragg already had an offer (added to scholarship grid on Aug. 14), but maybe it was just high interest until today.

Not that it's hugely pertinent to Illinois basketball, but I also saw that Devin Williams had narrowed his list down to tOSU, WVU, and Memphis.

Foo G · Oct 16, 2012, 01:32 PM

Is anyone else visiting on the 27th for the O&B scrimmage, or is JG&Co going to keep it more 1-on-1 for Lyle?

Illiniwek06 · Oct 16, 2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Foo G

Is anyone else visiting on the 27th for the O&B scrimmage, or is JG&Co going to keep it more 1-on-1 for Lyle?

22nd is the O&B Scrimmage. 27th is the exhibition against Lewis.

-josh- · Oct 16, 2012, 01:35 PM

If we get KBD and Lyle, Groce should get a 5 year extension and a raise...And if he wins in the tournament big time, a lifetime contract for whatever money he wants.

saltygrapes · Oct 16, 2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksTaylorFan

KBD's comment was taken out of context. He wants to go through the process and visit top schools to see what they are about and to increase his visibility nationally. He's not out to spurn UK or any other school like the rumor says. Like Salty said, lots of false info being spread around.

Illinois is not first on his list and he's not waiting on offers to get visibility before he commits to Illinois and he's not favoring illinois but wanting to visit elite schools. Illinois is another school on his list honestly. He legitimately doesn't know where he wants to go. I think there might be some new players there soon as well.

Every recruit wants visibility and exposure, KBD is no different

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