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Old Nov 19, 2012, 09:49 AM   #251
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Is Notre Dame given a courtesy call offering the 14th spot before moving on to anyone else? I know most say that ship has sailed but I don't see how you do not at least inquire.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 09:49 AM   #252
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An SEC buddy of mine had an interesting take on this. I'm sure it's not the real reason but it does make some sense - in his opinion if we ever want a true, proper playoff system at least for football, the super conferences need to be more evenly aligned and this gets closer to that. An interesting perspective at least...
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 09:50 AM   #253
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Wow, can't believe this happened so quickly! A good friend (and huge basketball fan) went to Maryland, so now we'll get to play each other and argue about bball even more. From what I've experienced of the Maryland basketball fanbase, I think they're a great fit.

I live in New Jersey, and I'm not sold on Rutgers. I live 15 minutes away from Rutgers campus and don't even see people wearing Rutgers clothing much. I understand the want to get into the NJ/NY market, but they seem like a weak choice. I guess they are the best option?
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 09:52 AM   #254
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That timing certainly makes sense. If this goes through with Rutgers as the dance partner, I suppose the ACC adds UConn. This really undercuts Notre Dame, and all but wipes out Big East football. So now maybe they finally do the obvious thing and turn the Big East into a basketball-only east coast conference. All of the Big East football schools can form a new conference without the basketball only schools or turn the Conference USA into a super second tier conference.
ND joined the ACC in all non-football sports correct?

EDIT: found my answer...carry on.

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Old Nov 19, 2012, 09:56 AM   #255
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Not all the #Terps regents favored the #BigTen move. “I felt there was no time for an opposing view," said regent Tom McMillen.

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Old Nov 19, 2012, 09:59 AM   #256
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That timing certainly makes sense. If this goes through with Rutgers as the dance partner, I suppose the ACC adds UConn. This really undercuts Notre Dame, and all but wipes out Big East football. So now maybe they finally do the obvious thing and turn the Big East into a basketball-only east coast conference. All of the Big East football schools can form a new conference without the basketball only schools or turn the Conference USA into a super second tier conference.
With ND being in the ACC for all sports other than football I'm curious as to why this undercuts them? Just curious.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 09:59 AM   #257
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And..Rutgers to the Big Ten tomorrow.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:05 AM   #258
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With ND being in the ACC for all sports other than football I'm curious as to why this undercuts them? Just curious.
Doesn't undercut ND directly, but it seriously undercuts the ACC. They're losing their Baltimore market & the DC market is no longer owned by them. Definitely a significant blow to the ACC, IMO.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:06 AM   #259
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Nothing we weren't expecting Saturday... Now the question is how soon do other schools like Georgia Tech or North Carolina follow suit?
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:06 AM   #260
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:07 AM   #261
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this is pretty silly
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:12 AM   #262
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Maryland seems like a good fit, but Im still not sold on Rutgers.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:17 AM   #263
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Louisville would seem like a good fit, but Im sure they dont have the balance the Big 10 is looking for.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:18 AM   #264
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I have been skimming the prior posts so I am not sure if someone already mentioned this.

I don't see landing MD as "opening the DC tv market" not Rutgers doing the same in NYC.

If you have an excellent product the people will watch regardless of wether not not a local team is a part of the conference.

Does anyone in the upper midwest watch SEC games on Saturday? How can you do that if Auburn is not in the B1G? Do they watch Alabama or LSU in NYC? Sure they do.

OSU, Michigan, PSU all recruit in NYC and DC already. The market is not going to magically open up if MD or Rutgers joins the B1G.

I wasn't real excited about Penn St or Neb joining the B1G but they have excellent football programs so it made sense. As much as I enjoy a good college basketball game it is the little sister to football.

MD doesn't belong in the Big Ten. Neither does Rutgers. This is very disappointing.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:19 AM   #265
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And down goes the traditional Big ten, when ten midwest universities made up an athletic conference. I'm still not wholly buying into Penn State as a big ten member and Nebraska just isn't so this makes no sense to me. I know, follow the money, that's the motivation for everything.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:21 AM   #266
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:23 AM   #267
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I have been skimming the prior posts so I am not sure if someone already mentioned this.

I don't see landing MD as "opening the DC tv market" not Rutgers doing the same in NYC.

If you have an excellent product the people will watch regardless of wether not not a local team is a part of the conference.

Does anyone in the upper midwest watch SEC games on Saturday? How can you do that if Auburn is not in the B1G? Do they watch Alabama or LSU in NYC? Sure they do.
You're asking the wrong questions. It's not about getting people to want to watch Michigan-Ohio State. It's about getting people to want to watch MSU-Purdue, and needing BTN to do it.

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MD doesn't belong in the Big Ten. Neither does Rutgers. This is very disappointing.
I keep asking for a rationale on this, but nobody really has one.*


*Note: "Cause I don't like it", "It just feels wrong" and "Cause it's not like it used to be" do not qualify as rationale - those are just feelings.

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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:23 AM   #268
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Wow, can't believe this happened so quickly!
And in the fall, no less. Seems like most of the major talk and rumors have taken place over the summer in the previous couple years. And this apparently a done deal just a couple days after it broke.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:24 AM   #269
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Louisville would seem like a good fit, but Im sure they dont have the balance the Big 10 is looking for.
Louisville has as much a chance of joining the Big Ten as EIU does.

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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:28 AM   #270
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You're asking the wrong questions. It's not about getting people to want to watch Michigan-Ohio State. It's about getting people to want to watch MSU-Purdue, and needing BTN to do it.



I keep asking for a rationale on this, but nobody really has one.*


*Note: "Cause I don't like it", "It just feels wrong" and "Cause it's not like it used to be" do not qualify as rationale - those are just feelings.
sorry just because MD or Rut is in the B$G doesn't not mean NYC will start to watch MSU-Purdue. As I already said they will watch the quality games.

The rational that people offer is their feelings. Just because you can't quantify them doesn't mean they don't matter.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:28 AM   #271
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I have been skimming the prior posts so I am not sure if someone already mentioned this.

I don't see landing MD as "opening the DC tv market" not Rutgers doing the same in NYC.

If you have an excellent product the people will watch regardless of wether not not a local team is a part of the conference.

Does anyone in the upper midwest watch SEC games on Saturday? How can you do that if Auburn is not in the B1G? Do they watch Alabama or LSU in NYC? Sure they do.

OSU, Michigan, PSU all recruit in NYC and DC already. The market is not going to magically open up if MD or Rutgers joins the B1G.

I wasn't real excited about Penn St or Neb joining the B1G but they have excellent football programs so it made sense. As much as I enjoy a good college basketball game it is the little sister to football.

MD doesn't belong in the Big Ten. Neither does Rutgers. This is very disappointing.
You are missing the point. Nebraska was offered as a football powerhouse in part, and I think in part to destabilize the Big 12 at the time (and possibly lure Texas). This move is to undercut the ACC and add those tv markets. With the Big 10 set to negotiate a monster contract in 2017, this move adds the NY/NJ and Baltimore and DC markets. This is about tv sets and not football fits.

In 10-20 years there will be 3-4 power conferences and everyone else will be light years behind. The next tv deal will be over 1 billion a year.
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:29 AM   #272
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It's inevitable they'll go to 16, who will the other two be?
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:29 AM   #273
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So. How long before we get UNC and totally leave Duke twisting in the wind?
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:30 AM   #274
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Louisville has as much a chance of joining the Big Ten as EIU does.
Agreed. Academics are not on the research level of the B1G and they offer nothing when it comes to tv dollars. They make a good candidate for the Big 12.

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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:33 AM   #275
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You are missing the point. Nebraska was offered as a football powerhouse in part, and I think in part to destabilize the Big 12 at the time (and possibly lure Texas). This move is to undercut the ACC and add those tv markets. With the Big 10 set to negotiate a monster contract in 2017, this move adds the NY/NJ and Baltimore and DC markets. This is about tv sets and not football fits.

In 10-20 years there will be 3-4 power conferences and everyone else will be light years behind. The next tv deal will be over 1 billion a year.
You put together a conference that wins the BSC 5-6 times in 10 years and the NCAA about as often and the market will be there without MD or Rut.

I doubt the ACC is running around screaming what will they do now that MD has left. Take Duke or NC out and they will. The Big 12's problem was not Neb leaving. It was Texas was too big for everyone else. Now that they ate a little small piece of humble pie the rest of the members are willing to deal with them.
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