Illinois 79, Purdue 59 POSTGAME

trevdv · Feb 13, 2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sapan1030

For a lot of people on this board, it seems it's a horrible shot only when he misses. I don't see anyone complaining when he's hitting those exact same shots against Gonzaga.

Because he had good looks for those shots. I'm not one of those disinterested fans that just sees the stats and complains; I'm not complaining about Paul because he's missing. I'm complaining about Paul because the shots he's missing shouldn't be taken in the first place.

solbur2 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sapan1030

And a lot of people seem to disregard all the attention he draws when he comes into the paint. There were several instances tonight where he drove it and kicked it to a wide open Egwu or McLaurin, who were too stunned with how open they were to know what to do with the ball

+10000000

HsvIllini · Feb 13, 2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by solbur2

So your saying you think this team would have a better record without Brandon Paul? That's outrageous!

Is it?

MastFan1 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HsvIllini

Is it?

Yes. Next question.

Dan · Feb 13, 2013, 10:17 PM

trevdv · Feb 13, 2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HsvIllini

Is it?

I don't know about a better record, but our basketball IQ and our decision-making might definitely be higher than it is right now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about winning by twenty.

PointGuardU01 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alexander58

Absolutely. Paul makes some mistakes, but he makes this team better.

If his shots are going in he does...otherwise he's a negative because of his poor shot selection, carelessness with the ball, and mental mistakes on D. When he makes shots he is much more active on D and can even be a disruptive force on that side of the ball. It just seems that everyone on this team is buying in and getting on the same page except BP. I hope he comes around like DJ and Griffey have...if he does we have a chance to be really good.

trevdv · Feb 13, 2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MastFan1

Yes. Next question.

Why? Waiting for answer.

trevdv · Feb 13, 2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PointGuardU01

If his shots are going in he does...otherwise he's a negative because of his poor shot selection, carelessness with the ball, and mental mistakes on D. When he makes shots he is much more active on D and can even be a disruptive force on that side of the ball.

Thank you! Couldn't have said it better myself.

+100000

HsvIllini · Feb 13, 2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by solbur2

So your saying you think this team would have a better record without Brandon Paul? That's outrageous!

I would respect your opinion more if you knew the difference between your and you're

solbur2 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HsvIllini

Is it?

Woulda lost to Gonzaga, Hawaii, Indiana, possibly butler and gardner webb without him. and even the msu game we still woulda lost because he gave us 13 points and shot 50% from the field in that game.

stevo99 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HsvIllini

Is it?

Of course it is.

Brandon was one of the 5 best players in the country thru Christmas. How quickly some forget.

cosmicpowers · Feb 13, 2013, 10:19 PM

The thing about BP being "down" is - if he goes for 30 one night AND the surrounding play is like tonight = woah nellie!

I'll be in 214 Sunday! 2 bros and friends in 211! Unfortunately, I have a nice and a nephew who are students at NU, oh well

Frankie Williams · Feb 13, 2013, 10:21 PM

They have the talent physically but now they have increased there mental play and focus. Offense looks so much smoother now and the defense is stepping up.
Really excited for the rest of the season...

My2Cents · Feb 13, 2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

Were those closeups of DJs new shoes a callback from the Journey episode?

Dan · Feb 13, 2013, 10:21 PM

RT @IlliniHoops Three in a row! #Illini #B1G #Winning http://pic.twitter.com/gFNFF92B

Cool Hand Luke · Feb 13, 2013, 10:22 PM

I asked for a beatdown and I got beatdown. **** you, Painter.

If you don't feel great for Tyler Griffey, you got a cold, cold heart. The threes weren't falling but that kid just kept competing and still had a big impact despite the cold shooting.

This was an archetypal “team win." So many guys impacting the game and at times our offense looked like a legitimate offense where all 5 guys were on the same page, cutting and moving and passing with purpose as one cohesive unit. And again our defense and rebounding was miles ahead of where it was at the beginning of league play.

Just a great win. Beat the Nerds and we are in. Such a huge game. I fear it's a trap game, and I still fear the team will fall back into old habits because we've had some recent success. Hopefully the light stays on and these seniors remember they cannot let up if they want to go out dancing. I believe in John Groce. He'll get us the 3 wins we need one way or another. Man, it feels good to have hope and pride again. Credit to the players for not succumbing to failure. It would have been so easy to accept that things just weren't going to work out for them. To be where we are now after such a tough stretch is pretty amazing.

HsvIllini · Feb 13, 2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by trevdv

I don't know about a better record, but our basketball IQ and our decision-making might definitely be higher than it is right now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about winning by twenty.

Exactly!

ChiCityHoops34 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo99

Of course it is.

Brandon was one of the 5 best players in the country thru Christmas. How quickly some forget.

With how DJ has been looking, I would love to know what he would have been doing if he took as many shots as BP earlier in the year

jrichisamazing · Feb 13, 2013, 10:24 PM

Team effort tonight. I think the seniors are realizing that this is their last chance to do anything special, and they're playing on another level because of it. If we get this kind of play out of the seniors for the rest of the year, we could beat anyone.

Henry also showed the most amount of energy I've ever seen him play with. When Griffey and Henry are contributing, this team is awesome to watch. With McLaurin, Griffey, and Henry at the 4 Groce can have just about any type of matchup he wants.

solbur2 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiCityHoops34

With how DJ has been looking, I would love to know what he would have been doing if he took as many shots as BP earlier in the year

Half the reason DJ gets shots is because the attention BP draws. dj can't create his own shot.

MastFan1 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HsvIllini

I would respect your opinion more if you knew the difference between your and you're

At least he can remember further than a month in the past.

Brandon carried this team through the first half of the non-con. Quit throwing the team's most talented player under the bus.

BoolahBoolah · Feb 13, 2013, 10:26 PM

Hester kills me every time with that "Hu HOOOOOOOO" call.

HeartofaChampion · Feb 13, 2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sapan1030

Honestly, people need to give it a rest with BP. I've said this several times and will continue to say it. I think he played hard today, but wasn't able to get into any sort of flow because of a bunch of ticky tack fouls being called on him.

BP is an important player on this team, but he's played quite poorly the majority of the B1G schedule and really the majority of games since Mizzou. Here are his stats for the 14 games since Dec. 22:

62-175 FGs (35.4%)
23-85 FGs (27.1%)
29 assists
44 TOs
Poor overall D according to JG in that stretch until playing better vs. MN

If he could get out of his extended tailspin and play better ball, imagine how much better our team would be. Hopefully the light goes on.

ChiCityHoops34 · Feb 13, 2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by solbur2

Half the reason DJ gets shots is because the attention BP draws. dj can't create his own shot.

So what about the shots DJ has been hitting with BP on the bench?

Feb 13, 2013, 10:22 PM	#142
Cool Hand Luke Founder, Mike Thomas Fan Club Location: Tuscola, IL Posts: 709	I asked for a beatdown and I got beatdown. **** you, Painter. If you don't feel great for Tyler Griffey, you got a cold, cold heart. The threes weren't falling but that kid just kept competing and still had a big impact despite the cold shooting. This was an archetypal “team win." So many guys impacting the game and at times our offense looked like a legitimate offense where all 5 guys were on the same page, cutting and moving and passing with purpose as one cohesive unit. And again our defense and rebounding was miles ahead of where it was at the beginning of league play. Just a great win. Beat the Nerds and we are in. Such a huge game. I fear it's a trap game, and I still fear the team will fall back into old habits because we've had some recent success. Hopefully the light stays on and these seniors remember they cannot let up if they want to go out dancing. I believe in John Groce. He'll get us the 3 wins we need one way or another. Man, it feels good to have hope and pride again. Credit to the players for not succumbing to failure. It would have been so easy to accept that things just weren't going to work out for them. To be where we are now after such a tough stretch is pretty amazing. __________________ "The freight train is moving. Either jump on or get off." - John Groce

Feb 13, 2013, 10:17 PM	#130
Dan Admin Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 25,910

Feb 13, 2013, 10:19 PM	#138
cosmicpowers Posts: 54	The thing about BP being "down" is - if he goes for 30 one night AND the surrounding play is like tonight = woah nellie! I'll be in 214 Sunday! 2 bros and friends in 211! Unfortunately, I have a nice and a nephew who are students at NU, oh well

Feb 13, 2013, 10:21 PM	#139
Frankie Williams Location: Carbondale, IL Posts: 13	They have the talent physically but now they have increased there mental play and focus. Offense looks so much smoother now and the defense is stepping up. Really excited for the rest of the season...

Feb 13, 2013, 10:21 PM	#141
Dan Admin Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 25,910	RT @IlliniHoops Three in a row! #Illini #B1G #Winning http://pic.twitter.com/gFNFF92B

Feb 13, 2013, 10:24 PM	#145
jrichisamazing Posts: 297	Team effort tonight. I think the seniors are realizing that this is their last chance to do anything special, and they're playing on another level because of it. If we get this kind of play out of the seniors for the rest of the year, we could beat anyone. Henry also showed the most amount of energy I've ever seen him play with. When Griffey and Henry are contributing, this team is awesome to watch. With McLaurin, Griffey, and Henry at the 4 Groce can have just about any type of matchup he wants.

Feb 13, 2013, 10:26 PM	#148
BoolahBoolah Location: The Orient Posts: 394	Hester kills me every time with that "Hu HOOOOOOOO" call.