Video: Illinois Basketball TNT Series

KBLEE · Jan 22, 2013, 01:37 PM

I think they need to rename this part of the series from TNT to ANA (Apathy and Agony).

Illinigirl · Jan 22, 2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lstewart53x3

Wow, I had forgotten about that. That was ugly.

But you know, watching that video, you can tell how bad the guy was hurting at the time. I know it's not a popular thing to say around here, but I kind of feel bad for him.

Still, none of that should ever be said.

The new video by IP was just awesome though. I'm loving everything we're doing right now.

Agree, that was ugly & depressing. Don't know how the players even showed up on the court after that.

At first, I thought I felt bad for him, but after thinking some more, I don't. They were kids he was supposed to be leading, not throwing them under the bus. I feel bad for the players.

Hugh Jorgen · Jan 22, 2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by illinifan31

At like 5:30 was there some drill where they were wearing shoulder pads?

Tom Izzo has had MSU doing this for years...usually during rebounding and loose ball drills to encourage throwing yourself into contact and not shying away from it in such situations. It works, if guys can remember at gametime that they don't have on shoulder pads.

CharlesLawrence · Jan 22, 2013, 02:14 PM

Coach JG... I don't know how people won't want to play for that man.

Prairie Spirit · Jan 23, 2013, 04:36 PM

Please pardon my ignorance when I say that I don't know who is responsible for these (so far) 3 videos of the Illini basketball season, but I want to say thank you! They are terrific! When you are a fan who only knows the team from watching games, watching/reading/listening to interviews and catching whatever commentary one happens to run across, this is eye opening. I have said repeatedly that I really like our new coach a lot and these videos demonstrate his style and personality very well and I'm so glad he is our coach. But even beyond that, the videos show the team and some glimpses of their personalities and it's really delightful to "get to know them" in this way. It is so wonderful to see them smile the way they do after games when they are happy. I hope we can see that again and again. I wonder if our guys have watched these videos, perhaps as reminder and inspiration for who they are and what they can do, and HAVE done! Love these videos a lot and so, to whoever shared them and made them, thank you very much. Go Illini!

Prairie Spirit · Jan 23, 2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Illini70math

If there was any doubt that it was time for a new staff before that press conference, there was none after it. Even if one feels that some of his complaints had a basis, when you get paid over a million a year you are supposed to overcome adversity.

BW would have been better off to make his exit after his Round of 32 finish in 2011, but he is not the type to let go until he is pushed out. Since we would not have hired Coach Groce in 2011, things worked out better for UI by BW staying, imo. Given that BW landed on his feet with a good gig for him at KSU, things worked out all the way around.

Prefacing the point of this post by saying I became a non-fan of Bruce Weber very early on, not late in his time at Illinois. My dislike of him was not the result of our losing years but because of his style and personality and the way he treated most of the team, the way he acted during games, his interviews, and on and on. Outside of basketball, he presented himself as some kind of saintly self-effacing do-gooder and I am suspicous of that kind of personality because usually - and I believe it was true in his case - it's usually about advancing themselves and manipulating others through unctuousness. He gets credit for a team's accomplishment beyond what I think he deserved, the early days. Overall, I think he did a lot of harm to a number of young men's confidence, careers and dreams, and he was a Serious Crusher of the Joy of Basketball. I could go on - and have at times - but at this stage in my Illinois Men's Basketball Fanhood, all I have to say is: I love John Groce and am so glad he was hired. Yes, it's tough when we lose and I want us to win, but he is right for us and is a true and righteous coach and TEACHER of young men and not a phony "aw shucks" narcissist. We can be BOTH a clean program AND a good, well-coached program and John Groce knows how to coach and teach and influence for the better - not for his own advancement alone but for these young men's GROWTH and development. Go Illini!

Prairie Spirit · Jan 23, 2013, 05:07 PM

The thing about Weber is that you shouldn't have been in the position he created, the one in which you feel for HIM. That is what he did to the team and to all of us - it was all about him - and he proved quite willing to do harm to young men's spirits in his effort to protect his own standing. The press conference that got the attention of so many was but one example, albeit probably the worst. However, I think another really awful example was when he had his whole family AND the team stand around him at the end. Lots of college coaches get fired or moved around but Weber made it a NATIONAL issue strictly to advance HIMSELF but at the great expense of the University of Illinois, our team and the media. Still this year we too often hear media commentators draw us back into the Weber debacle and his firing. WCIA/TV Channel 3 recently even ran an extended interview and profile on who? BRUCE WEBER!! God Almighty. Go away! We have a better, happier, more inspiring and more delightful coach and team situation this year. Why do we have to keep revisiting Bruce Weber? What is it that people are so in love with about that guy? I don't get it and am glad he's gone and wish he wouldn't keep being thrust back into our consciousness. I dislike Channel 3 anyway, but that Weber bit really sealed it for me. It wasn't Weber who brought us the joy of that first year he came here; it was the TEAM. Yet one would think everything is all about Weber - because that's what personalities like his force. And if anybody still believes that Izzo was speaking out for Weber because Izzo loves Bruce Weber so much, just stop and think for a minute. Illinois and MSU were recruiting hard for the same players and Izzo saw a fine opportunity to influence recruiting in a way that was "NCAA legal" and, man, did he ever use it. I think the NCAA should prohibit other coaches from speaking publickly about any internal personnel matters of other schools; it was unethical - but Weber sure did use it for more of his self-advancement. Glad he's gone; wish he would go away.

Prairie Spirit · Jan 23, 2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Illini70math

If there was any doubt that it was time for a new staff before that press conference, there was none after it. Even if one feels that some of his complaints had a basis, when you get paid over a million a year you are supposed to overcome adversity.

BW would have been better off to make his exit after his Round of 32 finish in 2011, but he is not the type to let go until he is pushed out. Since we would not have hired Coach Groce in 2011, things worked out better for UI by BW staying, imo. Given that BW landed on his feet with a good gig for him at KSU, things worked out all the way around.

And, just like when he came to Illinois, he's going to get credit for the good performance of a team that was in place - and a bit battered from their very recent coach experience - when he arrived. He will, again, be portrayed as a Knight in Shining Armor, when - by all media accounts - the circumstances and details around his being hired there are very complex and involve their AD, their previous coach/his style, and so on. So KSU gets a breather with a good team and a coach that can "hold a place" for the short contract period and maybe he gets rehired and maybe he moves on, but he didn't get hired because he's great; he got hired because he's the antithesis of Frank Martin and the AD needed to maintain the team and regroup the program. That's an opinion only. KSU may be a good team this year, but it won't have much if anything to do with Weber.

AzIlliniFan · Jan 23, 2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Prairie Spirit

Why do we have to keep revisiting Bruce Weber? Glad he's gone; wish he would go away.

BW will cease to be a topic on this board, and in Illini nation in general, at about the same time as Bill Self does. In other words, never. May as well save yourself the heartache and let it go. Nothing personal but it's (multiple) posts like yours that bring BW to the forefront time and again.

FeelYourPaign · Jan 24, 2013, 07:20 AM

Watching that video I saw something wonderful, Griffey stroking a three that goes in !!
Lot of fun, actually. When you see that the team does the I-L-L, I-N-I cheer every single game to close it out in the locker room, makes you wonder why you don't hear that even more in the arena, doesn't it? If that is the cheer that seals it for them, and as much as I love it personally, I want to hear it more. Let's go Sunday, crowd. Lemme hear 'ya !!
I - L - L

Dan · Feb 18, 2013, 03:23 PM

Episode 4 of Toughness and Togetherness released. All 4 videos can be found at the first post of this thread.

Episode 4 of Toughness and Togetherness (TNT), a behind-the-scenes look at 2012-13 University of Illinois basketball. The fourth episode includes Illinois last second win over Indiana.

IlliniProductionsHD

trevdv · Feb 18, 2013, 03:46 PM

Well, they kinda just skipped across every one of those six losses :laugh: but can ya blame them? Another great video!

chiefini · Feb 18, 2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

Episode 4 of Toughness and Togetherness released. All 4 videos can be found at the first post of this thread.

Episode 4 of Toughness and Togetherness (TNT), a behind-the-scenes look at 2012-13 University of Illinois basketball. The fourth episode includes Illinois last second win over Indiana.

IlliniProductionsHD

This is a wonderfully produced video of highlights which emphasizes the positive while acknowledging the negative during this crucial part of the season. I believe in Groce, and I'm excited for the future of Illinois basketball. Go Illini

mdonsbach · Feb 18, 2013, 03:58 PM

Still get that feeling watching the IU game.

Wokker · Feb 18, 2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mdonsbach

Still get that feeling watching the IU game.

Always will

lstewart53x3 · Feb 18, 2013, 04:09 PM

There's a lot of discussion of when to rush the court and when not to rush the court.

That is the best example of the perfect time to rush the court:

1.) hated rival

2.) #1 ranked team in the country

3.) in a losing streak before the game

4.) very rough stretch of seasons prior to this season

5.) awesome comeback in the game

6.) an unexpected buzzer beater shot wins the game

illini8507 · Feb 18, 2013, 05:15 PM

yea, i thought it was kinda weak when IU rushed the court after beating Michigan earlier this season. They were ranked number 3, and had been ranked 1 previously in the season. It wasnt some kind of huge deal for the team or program. Plus, they had the game in hand pretty much the whole way, it wasnt like it came down to some sort of climax at the end with a huge play to win the game... as it did against UK the year before.

lstewart53x3 · Feb 18, 2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by illini8507

yea, i thought it was kinda weak when IU rushed the court after beating Michigan earlier this season. They were ranked number 3, and had been ranked 1 previously in the season. It wasnt some kind of huge deal for the team or program. Plus, they had the game in hand pretty much the whole way, it wasnt like it came down to some sort of climax at the end with a huge play to win the game... as it did against UK the year before.

Yeah I don't mind it when people rush the court, but I think it has been used way to often this year during meaningless games.

-josh- · Feb 18, 2013, 07:24 PM

I can't get enough of these videos, actually teared up a bit when they started up the IU game. I would totally buy the whole collection of these at the end of the year.

trevdv · Feb 18, 2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -josh-

I can't get enough of these videos, actually teared up a bit when they started up the IU game. I would totally buy the whole collection of these at the end of the year.

Right towards the end, when Oladipo is just standing with the ball as the clock ticks down...20, 15, 10.... that's when I tear up. Just to see the whole crowd rise to their feet, realizing that we have a shot to win this... That's a great moment. Then what follows is even better.

BZuppke · Feb 18, 2013, 08:14 PM

I think I've figured it out: It's the hair (or lack thereof). Combes, Henson and now Groce. Weber just had too much hair.

Ransom Stoddard · Feb 18, 2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BZuppke

I think I've figured it out: It's the hair (or lack thereof). Combes, Henson and now Groce. Weber just had too much hair.

Self? Kruger?

BZuppke · Feb 18, 2013, 08:31 PM

Forget it. I'm rolling.

EddiesSweetJ · Feb 18, 2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cjcastan

Loved it! Great PR by the program for the fans and the recruits.

It is kind of like "The Journey" on the BTN, except it is all Illini. I really like it. However, the first half of Part 4 was a string of losses and I hated reliving that one.

But, it does end on a very HIGH note with the defeat of #1 IU.

BoolahBoolah · Feb 18, 2013, 08:44 PM

I can't believe Brandon's first FT went in. My God, that was ugly.

And, how about Ibby absolutely trucking that fan that tries to chest bump him in the tunnel?

Jan 22, 2013, 02:14 PM	#54
CharlesLawrence Location: Chicago IL Posts: 1,053	Coach JG... I don't know how people won't want to play for that man. __________________ "If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right"

Jan 23, 2013, 04:36 PM	#55
Prairie Spirit Posts: 353	For Kramer116 Please pardon my ignorance when I say that I don't know who is responsible for these (so far) 3 videos of the Illini basketball season, but I want to say thank you! They are terrific! When you are a fan who only knows the team from watching games, watching/reading/listening to interviews and catching whatever commentary one happens to run across, this is eye opening. I have said repeatedly that I really like our new coach a lot and these videos demonstrate his style and personality very well and I'm so glad he is our coach. But even beyond that, the videos show the team and some glimpses of their personalities and it's really delightful to "get to know them" in this way. It is so wonderful to see them smile the way they do after games when they are happy. I hope we can see that again and again. I wonder if our guys have watched these videos, perhaps as reminder and inspiration for who they are and what they can do, and HAVE done! Love these videos a lot and so, to whoever shared them and made them, thank you very much. Go Illini!

Feb 18, 2013, 03:46 PM	#62
trevdv Location: Champaign Posts: 2,572	Well, they kinda just skipped across every one of those six losses :laugh: but can ya blame them? Another great video! __________________ That's a winner! http://www.youtube.com/user/97illinifan

Feb 18, 2013, 03:58 PM	#64
mdonsbach Location: Bethalto, IL Posts: 1,260	Still get that feeling watching the IU game. __________________ Twitter

Feb 18, 2013, 07:24 PM	#69
-josh- STAHP! Location: The paign born and raised Posts: 3,176	I can't get enough of these videos, actually teared up a bit when they started up the IU game. I would totally buy the whole collection of these at the end of the year. __________________ virtus junxit mors non separabit

Jan 22, 2013, 01:37 PM	#51
KBLEE Location: Montgomery, IL Posts: 6,251	I think they need to rename this part of the series from TNT to ANA (Apathy and Agony).

Jan 23, 2013, 05:07 PM	#57
Prairie Spirit Posts: 353	The thing about Weber is that you shouldn't have been in the position he created, the one in which you feel for HIM. That is what he did to the team and to all of us - it was all about him - and he proved quite willing to do harm to young men's spirits in his effort to protect his own standing. The press conference that got the attention of so many was but one example, albeit probably the worst. However, I think another really awful example was when he had his whole family AND the team stand around him at the end. Lots of college coaches get fired or moved around but Weber made it a NATIONAL issue strictly to advance HIMSELF but at the great expense of the University of Illinois, our team and the media. Still this year we too often hear media commentators draw us back into the Weber debacle and his firing. WCIA/TV Channel 3 recently even ran an extended interview and profile on who? BRUCE WEBER!! God Almighty. Go away! We have a better, happier, more inspiring and more delightful coach and team situation this year. Why do we have to keep revisiting Bruce Weber? What is it that people are so in love with about that guy? I don't get it and am glad he's gone and wish he wouldn't keep being thrust back into our consciousness. I dislike Channel 3 anyway, but that Weber bit really sealed it for me. It wasn't Weber who brought us the joy of that first year he came here; it was the TEAM. Yet one would think everything is all about Weber - because that's what personalities like his force. And if anybody still believes that Izzo was speaking out for Weber because Izzo loves Bruce Weber so much, just stop and think for a minute. Illinois and MSU were recruiting hard for the same players and Izzo saw a fine opportunity to influence recruiting in a way that was "NCAA legal" and, man, did he ever use it. I think the NCAA should prohibit other coaches from speaking publickly about any internal personnel matters of other schools; it was unethical - but Weber sure did use it for more of his self-advancement. Glad he's gone; wish he would go away.

Jan 24, 2013, 07:20 AM	#60
FeelYourPaign Location: Barrington, IL Posts: 2,304	Watching that video I saw something wonderful, Griffey stroking a three that goes in !! Lot of fun, actually. When you see that the team does the I-L-L, I-N-I cheer every single game to close it out in the locker room, makes you wonder why you don't hear that even more in the arena, doesn't it? If that is the cheer that seals it for them, and as much as I love it personally, I want to hear it more. Let's go Sunday, crowd. Lemme hear 'ya !! I - L - L

Feb 18, 2013, 03:23 PM	#61
Dan Admin Location: Champaign, IL Posts: 25,901	Episode 4 of Toughness and Togetherness released. All 4 videos can be found at the first post of this thread. Episode 4 of Toughness and Togetherness (TNT), a behind-the-scenes look at 2012-13 University of Illinois basketball. The fourth episode includes Illinois last second win over Indiana. IlliniProductionsHD

Feb 18, 2013, 04:09 PM	#66
lstewart53x3 Location: Chambana Posts: 1,329	There's a lot of discussion of when to rush the court and when not to rush the court. That is the best example of the perfect time to rush the court: 1.) hated rival 2.) #1 ranked team in the country 3.) in a losing streak before the game 4.) very rough stretch of seasons prior to this season 5.) awesome comeback in the game 6.) an unexpected buzzer beater shot wins the game

Feb 18, 2013, 05:15 PM	#67
illini8507 Posts: 402	yea, i thought it was kinda weak when IU rushed the court after beating Michigan earlier this season. They were ranked number 3, and had been ranked 1 previously in the season. It wasnt some kind of huge deal for the team or program. Plus, they had the game in hand pretty much the whole way, it wasnt like it came down to some sort of climax at the end with a huge play to win the game... as it did against UK the year before.

Feb 18, 2013, 08:14 PM	#71
BZuppke Location: Plainfield Posts: 154	I think I've figured it out: It's the hair (or lack thereof). Combes, Henson and now Groce. Weber just had too much hair.

Feb 18, 2013, 08:31 PM	#73
BZuppke Location: Plainfield Posts: 154	Forget it. I'm rolling.

Feb 18, 2013, 08:44 PM	#75
BoolahBoolah Location: The Orient Posts: 389	I can't believe Brandon's first FT went in. My God, that was ugly. And, how about Ibby absolutely trucking that fan that tries to chest bump him in the tunnel?