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Old Dec 23, 2016, 08:31 AM   #101
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Some of Lunardi's picks have always been suspect, especially early in basketball season. The same could be said about all analysts doing their own projected fields. Bracketology only makes sense as we come closer to the end of the season, yet analysts start doing them even in pre-season to drive traffic
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Old Dec 25, 2016, 05:48 AM   #102
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The RSCI of Brackets was just updated last night.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Average between a 10 and 11 seed. We are in 13 of the 29 brackets.

Welcome to the bubble....I"m sure were have a time share around here somewhere.

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Old Dec 25, 2016, 03:31 PM   #103
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The RSCI of Brackets was just updated last night.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Average between a 10 and 11 seed. We are in 13 of the 29 brackets.

Welcome to the bubble....I"m sure were have a time share around here somewhere.
For sure lol. We took last year off but are back!
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Old Dec 26, 2016, 10:25 AM   #104
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Was looking at some other schedules, MSU and NW have the opposite schedules from us.. Pretty soft for the first 5-6 games, but the back end is very difficult. So don't be surprised to hear about "Izzo has them back on track" or "this is the year for NW" over the next few weeks. Although there is the caveat that many of those "easy" games for NW are on the road....
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Old Dec 26, 2016, 11:58 AM   #105
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I believe that we are starting to see the difference between levels of play in college start to even out.. With the one and done being such a hot commodity the high majors are constantly having roster turnovers. Teams don't have studs to build their programs around anymore
I was looking at historical metrics, and this year's best teams seem closer to the average team than is typical. Hard to say if it's a trend, though. The year before last's Kentucky team was absolutely loaded.
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Old Dec 26, 2016, 01:02 PM   #106
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I was looking at historical metrics, and this year's best teams seem closer to the average team than is typical. Hard to say if it's a trend, though. The year before last's Kentucky team was absolutely loaded.
I wasn't necessarily talking about the best teams, but college hoops overall. It's interesting to see this year even the top teams are closer. Will be interesting to see what it looks like in a few years
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Old Dec 26, 2016, 11:23 PM   #107
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Was looking at some other schedules, MSU and NW have the opposite schedules from us.. Pretty soft for the first 5-6 games, but the back end is very difficult. So don't be surprised to hear about "Izzo has them back on track" or "this is the year for NW" over the next few weeks. Although there is the caveat that many of those "easy" games for NW are on the road....
Made the same point about MSU after their Northeastern loss. They could likely improve to 13-5 pretty soon.

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Old Dec 26, 2016, 11:41 PM   #108
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The RSCI of Brackets was just updated last night.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Average between a 10 and 11 seed. We are in 13 of the 29 brackets.

Welcome to the bubble....I"m sure were have a time share around here somewhere.
This is probably the best website to use to keep track of our bubble status. Anyone who is still listening to Lunardi or the other talking heads on ESPN should save their time and use this link instead. It's especially useful during championship week so you can see which teams might have stolen an at large bid by winning their conference tournament.

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Old Dec 26, 2016, 11:56 PM   #109
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The RSCI of Brackets was just updated last night.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

Average between a 10 and 11 seed. We are in 13 of the 29 brackets.

Welcome to the bubble....I"m sure were have a time share around here somewhere.
Do any of those columns have a history of being more reliable than others at their predictions? Especially this early?
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 12:14 AM   #110
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Was looking at some other schedules, MSU and NW have the opposite schedules from us.. Pretty soft for the first 5-6 games, but the back end is very difficult. So don't be surprised to hear about "Izzo has them back on track" or "this is the year for NW" over the next few weeks. Although there is the caveat that many of those "easy" games for NW are on the road....
Thought the same thing about NW. They could definitely win a handful of road games early and have a huge jump on the season, or they could drop those "winnable" road games and have a tough road looking for road wins the rest of the way. The old idea that you need to hold serve at home and win a couple on the road will probably hold true again this year.
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 08:23 AM   #111
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Do any of those columns have a history of being more reliable than others at their predictions? Especially this early?
Yes. Click on the Rankings tab on the main page. The matrix has a method for scoring accuracy, and is 3rd out of 88 "experts" based on it. Lunardi is 22nd for example.
No, and I'd argue there is nothing to grade against for early projections. It's apples and oranges to take a partial resume this early in the season, and compare it what the committee decides at the end with a full resume. I
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 10:03 AM   #112
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Stewart Mandel of Fox has his first bracket guess, Illini as a 10 seed.
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 02:46 PM   #113
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Lunardi has us in now.

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Old Dec 27, 2016, 03:11 PM   #114
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Lunardi has us in now.
So, now Lunardi is smart, right?
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 03:17 PM   #115
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 06:04 PM   #116
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So, now Lunardi is smart, right?
Clearly, he isn't.

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Old Dec 27, 2016, 06:06 PM   #117
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Lunardi has us in now.
I bet he's wondering what he was thinking right about now. LOL
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 06:33 PM   #118
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I bet he's wondering what he was thinking right about now. LOL
Now he has a reason to make another update, he loves it.
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 07:21 PM   #119
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Hey, RPI moved up to 32! SOS is now 13...
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Old Dec 27, 2016, 07:23 PM   #120
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Hey, RPI moved up to 32! SOS is now 13...
As far as RPI is concerned we lost on the road to a really good team. Reality is a bit different. But if it only one game it does not kill the season.
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Old Dec 29, 2016, 10:53 AM   #121
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Out of Lunardi updated bracket
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Old Dec 29, 2016, 11:26 AM   #122
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Out of Lunardi updated bracket
"First four out"
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 10:22 AM   #123
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I know that this thread is mainly for Illini bracketology but I was talking with someone on another board and they mentioned that it wouldn't be a surprise if no B1G teams got a top 4 seed in the NCAA tournament.

Indiana's RPI is 134 and they have major SOS issues.

Purdue and Wisconsin have an issue with signature wins as well.
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 10:27 AM   #124
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I know that this thread is mainly for Illini bracketology but I was talking with someone on another board and they mentioned that it wouldn't be a surprise if no B1G teams got a top 4 seed in the NCAA tournament.

Indiana's RPI is 134 and they have major SOS issues.

Purdue and Wisconsin have an issue with signature wins as well.
It's quite possible. Unless 1 of those 3 separates themselves then I'd guess it will be difficult. I'm guessing 1 of them will get at least a 4, but a good chance that's the best seed the league gets.
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Old Dec 30, 2016, 10:59 AM   #125
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Big 10 seems to be 'middle heavy'. No truly bad teams (except maybe Rutgers) and no truly great ones. Some very good, some good, some average, and some not great. I think this means a high number of teams making it without the high seeds, and a whole mess of bubble teams. Look for the Bubble Watch to have like 8 teams on it. It's where the American Athletic Conference likes to hang out.
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