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Old May 15, 2017, 12:02 PM   #1001
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Not meh - huge loss for what is Illinois's biggest need. Top rated big men are hard to get and Illinois spent years recruiting Tilmon. Illinois dangerously thin with big men next season.
We need a big or two, I'll agree. Top rated big men are hard to get. They are also hard to judge by their ratings. Some live up to their ratings, others don't.

I don't think Cuonzo has had a track record of improving big men, but maybe this time it will be different. Seems like JT was more comfortable with CM and Miznoz. His decision.

We'll see how he develops during his time in Columbia. Best of luck to him.
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:05 PM   #1002
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Other teams that play with true 4s are going to have that guy guarding one of our guards >=20 feet from the basket? I'll take that trade all day every day. I think our primary concern is big depth for foul purposes as you point out with Leron, matchups secondary as you point out with Finke.

Also defensively, a guard is probably able to apply pressure with quickness at a greater level than a big in general. This will help us apply better ball pressure all over the court and be able to really go for deflections and get out in passing lanes. The defensive trade-offs aren't all bad.
It would be ideal if we had a shot blocking 5 to cover up our pressure breakdowns.
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:08 PM   #1003
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Yeah, I was thinking of a later post I made. My mistake.
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:13 PM   #1004
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Not sure if you're trying to make a joke here, but it doesn't matter.

I hope this is what happened! Kind of funny thinking about it.

"Just gonna delete this before I decommit........and there we go...*retweet*....aww crap!......I'll just give it a few days before I decommit."
Mostly joking, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:21 PM   #1005
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:24 PM   #1006
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They already the best player in Illinois
Big man, more specifically -
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:25 PM   #1007
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Wow, Mizzou with a pretty blatant shot at us in their Tilmon commitment graphic. State of Illinois and Missouri with a tiger image overlayed. Game on Miznoz.
Tacky. Well, that's one p!ssing contest I hope we don't get into with the athletic department. Should we land anyone who Miznoz had hopes for, eh, we shouldn't make a deal out of it.

Enjoy it while you can, folks. Between players and coaches, I'll take our deal. Tilmon vs Smith and Martin vs Underwood. I think we got the better of that particular stick.
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:39 PM   #1008
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Tacky. Well, that's one p!ssing contest I hope we don't get into with the athletic department. Should we land anyone who Miznoz had hopes for, eh, we shouldn't make a deal out of it.

Enjoy it while you can, folks. Between players and coaches, I'll take our deal. Tilmon vs Smith and Martin vs Underwood. I think we got the better of that particular stick.
Yep. The biggest bummer is that it's such a position of need for us, but oh well. Never get too invested in the whims of 17/18 year olds.

Missouri will be interesting though. Unless Michael Porter Jr. is truly a phenom (like significantly better than Ben Simmons) I don't see them making the tournament next year. That roster is still a dumpster fire with some sprinkles on top.

...then Porter Jr. leaves...

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Old May 15, 2017, 12:40 PM   #1009
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Tilmon commits...... for how long ?? Lol .... I'll check back

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Old May 15, 2017, 12:45 PM   #1010
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Tacky. Well, that's one p!ssing contest I hope we don't get into with the athletic department. Should we land anyone who Miznoz had hopes for, eh, we shouldn't make a deal out of it.

Enjoy it while you can, folks. Between players and coaches, I'll take our deal. Tilmon vs Smith and Martin vs Underwood. I think we got the better of that particular stick.
We already did. Mark Smith.

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Old May 15, 2017, 12:45 PM   #1011
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Tilmon commits...... for how long ?? Lol .... I'll check back
This one's good for a year at least.
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:49 PM   #1012
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I don't see them making the tournament next year.
They're getting an awfully big influx of talent. It's not like they're going to finish ahead of Kentucky and Florida, but I'll be surprised (and delighted) if they can't manage an at-large bid with that level of raw talent, especially in a top-heavy league like the SEC.
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:50 PM   #1013
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Frank Cusumano‏Verified account @Frank_Cusumano 14m14 minutes ago
Jeremiah Tilmon is in good hands. There can't be a better role model than Cuonzo Martin. @KSDKSports @MizzouHoops
lmfao.
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Old May 15, 2017, 01:01 PM   #1014
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They're getting an awfully big influx of talent. It's not like they're going to finish ahead of Kentucky and Florida, but I'll be surprised (and delighted) if they can't manage an at-large bid with that level of raw talent, especially in a top-heavy league like the SEC.
Cal missed the tournament this past year with 2 non-freshman 5* players (Rabb and Bird) and Charlie Moore. That's the level of coaching they will be getting at Miznoz.

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Old May 15, 2017, 01:01 PM   #1015
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Good luck to Mr. Tilmon. I'll take the Metro East kid that we got, personally.
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Old May 15, 2017, 01:04 PM   #1016
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Frank Cusumano‏Verified account @Frank_Cusumano 14m14 minutes ago
Jeremiah Tilmon is in good hands. There can't be a better role model than Cuonzo Martin. @KSDKSports @MizzouHoops
Good hands of not staying in one place very long.
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Old May 15, 2017, 01:05 PM   #1017
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Good hands of not staying in one place very long.
I think he's already got that part down.

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Old May 15, 2017, 01:11 PM   #1018
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I'm disappointed Tilmon didn't stay with Illinois, but glad the waiting is over. I do like having Mark Smith, and think it will work out for the best.

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Old May 15, 2017, 02:07 PM   #1019
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UI's coach is at his third university in three years.
Sucks to admit, but this is true. Helps to remind us that this is nothing more than a business. Coach Underwood made what he felt was his best business decision(s). Ditto for Coach Martin. And Tilmon made what he felt was the best business decision for himself. I wish him the best and hope it works out for him.
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Old May 15, 2017, 02:20 PM   #1020
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Frank Cusumano‏Verified account @Frank_Cusumano 14m14 minutes ago
Jeremiah Tilmon is in good hands. There can't be a better role model than Cuonzo Martin. @KSDKSports @MizzouHoops
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Old May 15, 2017, 02:42 PM   #1021
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We already did. Mark Smith.
Bingo. And come to think of it, the general reaction of commenters around these parts was not "we beat Mizzou" but "we got Mark Smith over all the important teams" which as it happens didn't include you know who.
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Old May 15, 2017, 02:46 PM   #1022
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JT is a baller wish he would of came here. IMO he will be in the NBA in 2 to 3 years. BU & company will bring talent in so even though the lost does hurt short term, long term we will be cool. Want be surprised if we get a better big in next years class. Just got a lot of faith in this staff.
Tilmon is a 4 year player imo, he is good, not leave early good. Best of luck to him though.
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Old May 15, 2017, 02:50 PM   #1023
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Tilmon is a 4 year player imo, he is good, not leave early good. Best of luck to him though.
Feel that all of his 4 years will not be in the conzou. But just my gut feeling.
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Old May 15, 2017, 02:56 PM   #1024
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Not that Underwood needs a little extra fire in his belly, but the way this went down sets-up for maximum belly fire in the bragging rights game. Looking so forward to it!
Except somebody has to explain to him what it is.
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Old May 15, 2017, 02:58 PM   #1025
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UI's coach is at his third university in three years.
And it was a step up each and every time. Do you consider moving from LaLu HS to ESLHS a step up? What about moving a commitment from UI to Miznoz, a step up also?
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