Ron Zook Rumor

AHSIllini32 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:14 PM

Ryan if this happens, wouldn't it be kinda stupid to do it right before the banquet weekend?

*illini4everjp* · Dec 10, 2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

Ryan if this happens, wouldn't it be kinda stupid to do it right before the banquet weekend?

Notre Dame did it, as did Kansas, and Cincinnati's gonna have to do it. Its not unheard of.

BananaShampoo · Dec 10, 2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

Ryan if this happens, wouldn't it be kinda stupid to do it right before the banquet weekend?

I don't think there's going to be much positive coming out of that banquet anyway.

dabearssoxbulls313 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:20 PM

My last ever final exam is tonight. I didn't think I could get anymore excited, but I have!

Kasino81 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:21 PM

Bye, have fun coaching junior high.

Groundhogday · Dec 10, 2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by -josh-

Steve Kelly says he's gonna be around another year at least. I trust his judgment more than anybody since he's the local radio personality who's been around the program for decades and has more inside sources than ANYONE when it comes to UofI athletics.

When did he say this? This was the consensus among all the beat writers, then everything started shifting in the last 24 hours.

RyanK · Dec 10, 2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

Ryan if this happens, wouldn't it be kinda stupid to do it right before the banquet weekend?

I do know if stupid is the word, odd yes. But as was stated by other posters..its' not unheard of and not many positives coming from this weekend..besides shootout at the hall

illini1 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:31 PM

Not sure how much I believe this since it came from a Missouri message board, but they're claiming someone put up the money for Zook's buyout. They also said Hawthorne asked for permission to talk to Missouri. Maybe that was the last straw.

BananaShampoo · Dec 10, 2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanK

I do know if stupid is the word, odd yes. But as was stated by other posters..its' not unheard of and not many positives coming from this weekend..besides shootout at the hall

On the other hand, it sure would be nice to be to have something to cheer about regarding BOTH major sports this weekend!

ijustkrushalot · Dec 10, 2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhogday

When did he say this? This was the consensus among all the beat writers, then everything started shifting in the last 24 hours.

its Steve Kelly

WDWS/News-Gazette is good for what it is... but they are so intertwined with the DIA that they are only going to report the company line until its announced other wise.

If Zook is canned, don't expect Kelly/Assmussen/Tate to be the ones to break it... it will leak through other channels

AHSIllini32 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanK

I do know if stupid is the word, odd yes. But as was stated by other posters..its' not unheard of and not many positives coming from this weekend..besides shootout at the hall

I don't just mean because it's before the banquet but more because of the number of recruits we are supposed to have on campus.

And I don't believe anything I hear about such and such player asking to talk to Mizzou when I've only heard about it from Mizzou's board...

Geo123 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by illini1

Not sure how much I believe this since it came from a Missouri message board, but they're claiming someone put up the money for Zook's buyout. They also said Hawthorne asked for permission to talk to Missouri. Maybe that was the last straw.

If it's the same message I saw. It said they read it on another message board. What a credible source. Here's the quote and the link.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=19&f=2885&t=5273879

"mUt1g3r wrote:
I read a couple of Illinois boards and only one person has said this and he didn't say where he heard got his info. He doesn't seem credible to me....so are you hearing this from some other source?

Just something I've heard on various message boards. No inside info here-which is why I asked on this board if anyone had any more about this to add."

so far nobody has confirmed....

dabearssoxbulls313 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by illini1

Not sure how much I believe this since it came from a Missouri message board, but they're claiming someone put up the money for Zook's buyout. They also said Hawthorne asked for permission to talk to Missouri. Maybe that was the last straw.

I might go nuts.

Groundhogday · Dec 10, 2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

I don't just mean because it's before the banquet but more because of the number of recruits we are supposed to have on campus.

If you change coaches, recruiting will inevitably take a hit. But you have to move fast to (1) compete for the better coaches available; and (2) give the new guy some chance of cobbling together some recruits.

AHSIllini32 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:42 PM

Yeah I don't disagree GHD

*4ever* · Dec 10, 2009, 04:44 PM

Holy crap batman. This is huge.

-josh- · Dec 10, 2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhogday

When did he say this? This was the consensus among all the beat writers, then everything started shifting in the last 24 hours.

6:30am this morning on 1400 wdws, they discussed it briefly on my way to work.

And FWIW ever since the whole Jim Sheppard incident there aren't to many of the local news/radio guys who do or care what the DIA says.

Geo123 · Dec 10, 2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanK

I have a very good source. RG has been given the OK to fire Zook if he so chooses. Assistants haven't been told of any decision yet FWIW. I'll keep everyone updated tonight

Ryan,

This is alot different than he is going to be fired. I always thought that Guenther had the OK to fire him and with his donor contacts I never thought a buyout would be hard take care of. So which one is it? IS he going to be fired or what?

Groundhogday · Dec 10, 2009, 04:49 PM

The one annoying thing: If you are going to fire Zook, you should have all your ducks in a row Sunday afternoon. It is now thursday and we've lost 4 days in the competition for a new coach. The season was a failure long ago, the recruiting went south by mid-season, the players have been disgruntled for some time, the AD has to have his finger on the pulse of this dying patient and be ready for major intervention.

If you are going to pull the plug Ron Guenther, do it now! The longer you dither the worse our chances for a good hire.

Dan · Dec 10, 2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhogday

The one annoying thing: If you are going to fire Zook, you should have all your ducks in a row Sunday afternoon. It is now thursday and we've lost 4 days in the competition for a new coach. The season was a failure long ago, the recruiting went south by mid-season, the players have been disgruntled for some time, the AD has to have his finger on the pulse of this dying patient and be ready for major intervention.

If you are going to pull the plug Ron Guenther, do it now! The longer you dither the worse our chances for a good hire.

^^^

BananaShampoo · Dec 10, 2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhogday

The one annoying thing: If you are going to fire Zook, you should have all your ducks in a row Sunday afternoon. It is now thursday and we've lost 4 days in the competition for a new coach. The season was a failure long ago, the recruiting went south by mid-season, the players have been disgruntled for some time, the AD has to have his finger on the pulse of this dying patient and be ready for major intervention.

If you are going to pull the plug Ron Guenther, do it now! The longer you dither the worse our chances for a good hire.

x 1,000,000

cmore · Dec 10, 2009, 04:57 PM

perhaps his waiting was on purpose. maybe he waited until the big fish (Brian Kelly) was out of the water. Now by waiting you only have "second tier" guys left. That tier is cheaper. and when this hire doesnt work out, RG can say "I got the best available guy". Because kelly strong and others were off the menu......

Groundhogday · Dec 10, 2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cmore

perhaps his waiting was on purpose. maybe he waited until the big fish (Brian Kelly) was out of the water. Now by waiting you only have "second tier" guys left. That tier is cheaper. and when this hire doesnt work out, RG can say "I got the best available guy". Because kelly strong and others were off the menu......

1) We were never going to get Brian Kelly, even if he wasn't offered the ND job.

2) Ron Guenther really does want a successful football program. He doesn't know how to get there, but conspiracy theories based upon Guenther deliberately hurting the football program are a bit far fetched.

WeatherfordForMVP · Dec 10, 2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cmore

perhaps his waiting was on purpose. maybe he waited until the big fish (Brian Kelly) was out of the water. Now by waiting you only have "second tier" guys left. That tier is cheaper. and when this hire doesnt work out, RG can say "I got the best available guy". Because kelly strong and others were off the menu......

For Christ's sake, by the time we know whether the next hire worked out or not, I hope Ron Guenther isn't saying anything about Illinois football.

*ill07* · Dec 10, 2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanK

Assistants haven't been told of any decision yet FWIW. I'll keep everyone updated tonight

If Curt Mallory still has a job after this season, I will go bananas. Four years later, and the man still has no idea what a secondary is supposed to do. Riding on one star player who figures it out on his own and makes you look good will not keep you around forever. Time for Mallory to get dumped, unceremoniously.

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Kasino81 THE ORIGITROLL! Location: Edwardsville, IL Posts: 2,865	Bye, have fun coaching junior high. __________________ Trolling this message board since 2007

Dec 10, 2009, 04:14 PM	#26
AHSIllini32 Posts: 1,334	Ryan if this happens, wouldn't it be kinda stupid to do it right before the banquet weekend?

Dec 10, 2009, 04:20 PM	#29
dabearssoxbulls313 Illini fan since birth! Location: the chi Posts: 232	My last ever final exam is tonight. I didn't think I could get anymore excited, but I have!

Dec 10, 2009, 04:31 PM	#33
illini1 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 105	Not sure how much I believe this since it came from a Missouri message board, but they're claiming someone put up the money for Zook's buyout. They also said Hawthorne asked for permission to talk to Missouri. Maybe that was the last straw.

Dec 10, 2009, 04:42 PM	#40
AHSIllini32 Posts: 1,334	Yeah I don't disagree GHD

Dec 10, 2009, 04:44 PM	#41
4ever Inmate # 58232987 Location: Illinois Dept. of Corrections..Death Row Posts: 2,233	Holy crap batman. This is huge.

Dec 10, 2009, 04:49 PM	#44
Groundhogday Posts: 5,337	The one annoying thing: If you are going to fire Zook, you should have all your ducks in a row Sunday afternoon. It is now thursday and we've lost 4 days in the competition for a new coach. The season was a failure long ago, the recruiting went south by mid-season, the players have been disgruntled for some time, the AD has to have his finger on the pulse of this dying patient and be ready for major intervention. *If you are going to pull the plug Ron Guenther, do it now!* The longer you dither the worse our chances for a good hire.

Dec 10, 2009, 04:57 PM	#47
cmore Posts: 1,118	perhaps his waiting was on purpose. maybe he waited until the big fish (Brian Kelly) was out of the water. Now by waiting you only have "second tier" guys left. That tier is cheaper. and when this hire doesnt work out, RG can say "I got the best available guy". Because kelly strong and others were off the menu......