Does anyone think there could be anything to this Rumor?

IlliniCrusader · Dec 16, 2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AK Illini

THIS JUST IN!

I have from good sources that a stud guard from the Chicago area is looking to transfer to CU, Sorry can’t tell you who it is (unless you guess right), but I’ll tell you this much, he’s black and can jump high.

The person was told by a source but wanted to confirm it before it was released - and now it has been. Let's just wait and see.

HOOPDOG · Dec 16, 2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by illiniweber23

Chicago point guard that might not be happy with his time. My first thought was Chris Colvin.

Me Too! As a matter of fact, I know he is unhappy at Iowa State with his playing time. However not sure that is who we are referring too.

IlliniCrusader · Dec 16, 2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOPDOG

Me Too! As a matter of fact, I know he is unhappy at Iowa State with his playing time. However not sure that is who we are referring too.

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Originally Posted by IlliniCrusader

Ryan is a regular here and ownes thefightinillini.weebly.com, and is our official inside recruiting guy for Illini-nation.net. He has credibility, but why would he give up his sources?

By the way, it's been relseased by the initial source that it is Chris Colvin.
http://www.illini-nation.net/index.p...=14759.new#new

HOOPDOG · Dec 16, 2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhogday

Right now, we are short a scholarship for the fall of 2010. An eligible player will not have their scholly renewed (e.g. Semrau). We are loaded with guards. How do we find a scholarship next year for a transfer guard? Even if you think McCamey might go pro, you don't know that for sure right now. This rumor just doesn't make any sense.

You don't put a transfer on a scholarship next year and he uses one of the 7 in 2011. However I don't think we will be accepting a transfer, at least not on a scholarship, for the same reason everyone else has said. By next year we will have plenty of guards.

Colvin is the only player that would have made any sense.

I still have a very good feeling about Randle as well...So I for one am not worried about our guard situation for the next several years.

illinicb · Dec 16, 2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeFever

McCamey leaving early?

I don't see that either. Glad he's an Illini, but I think guys like him are a dime/dozen around the country.

*Thacher_H_Guild* · Dec 16, 2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Psycho 86

The kids(and parents) that blew Bruce off when it was the popular thing to do get nothing!

and IMO the Colvins qualify!!!!!

Great quote from that thread !!

That is a great quote.

I'm sure BW will do what is best for the program if Colvin does want to transfer. We don't know for sure that Colvin "blew Bruce off." Not every play who goes elsewhere burns the bridge to Illinois.

With that said, spots on the Illinois roster are much harder to come by these days--especially at guard. We'll just have to wait to see how it plays out...

donoho1 · Dec 16, 2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by illinicb

I don't see that either. Glad he's an Illini, but I think guys like him are a dime/dozen around the country.

I agree completely. We don't need Colvin, and he just isn't that special. Accepting him could affect the recruitment of Randle. Plus, we don't want to be the school known as the school taking disgruntled players. He should have chose to come to Illinois in the first place, now he'll just have to live with his decisions. Again, there's always Iowa, Depaul, or even Indiana.

PLauderdale30 · Dec 16, 2009, 08:21 AM

Here is another thing, if youre a guard/forward and you are upset about not getting enough playing time somewhere, why would you want to transfer to Illinois right now? Unless you are just dying to go there for the education or really like the guys/coaches, it doesnt make sense if you want playing time. If playing time is what you really want, slide down the chart, not up it. If it is the intangibles, why did you come to Illinois to begin with?

CrazedUIFan · Dec 16, 2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOPDOG

Me Too! As a matter of fact, I know he is unhappy at Iowa State with his playing time. However not sure that is who we are referring too.

Not sure if this has been stated in this thread, but what makes him think he will have the amount of playing time here that will make him happy? I don't see it with our current freshmen (including Bertrand) and incoming recruits.

CrazedUIFan · Dec 16, 2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PLauderdale30

Here is another thing, if youre a guard/forward and you are upset about not getting enough playing time somewhere, why would you want to transfer to Illinois right now? Unless you are just dying to go there for the education or really like the guys/coaches, it doesnt make sense if you want playing time. If playing time is what you really want, slide down the chart, not up it. If it is the intangibles, why did you come to Illinois to begin with?

Beat me to it! Cosign.

james81 · Dec 16, 2009, 08:42 AM

If true, this is an example where we know nothing about Weber's strategic thinking and have no idea who the player is. There's not enough information to speculate in a worthwhile way. Would be an interesting development, though.

Illini1956 · Dec 16, 2009, 08:49 AM

EVAN Turner

point guard

Chicago

not getting any playing time right now

moe.fan · Dec 16, 2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Illini1956

EVAN Turner

point guard

Chicago

not getting any playing time right now

HAHA! Thought this was funny.

*Serious Late* · Dec 16, 2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IlliniCrusader

Ryan is a regular here and ownes thefightinillini.weebly.com, and is our official inside recruiting guy for Illini-nation.net. He has credibility, but why would he give up his sources?

By the way, it's been relseased by the initial source that it is Chris Colvin.
http://www.illini-nation.net/index.p...=14759.new#new

Yeah. This makes no sense whatsoever. After being given a list of names, some person on a random message board asked his friend a bunch of names until his source said 'That's it!' Riiiiiiiiight.

The simple fact that we don't have a scholarship for him is enough to make me extremely skeptical. Not to mention his impact on 2011 recruiting, the fact he would have to sit out a year or the issue around his playing time here should he decide to transfer.

I am very surprised that this story has any legs, really. I appreciate anyone providing insiders info, but I would be hesitant to accept this as fact.

But who knows, Yates did say something major was on the horizon. Now Ryan says the story has legs, we will just see. In any event...

IlliniCrusader · Dec 16, 2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by goillini354

Yeah. This makes no sense whatsoever. After being given a list of names, some person on a random message board asked his friend a bunch of names until his source said 'That's it!' Riiiiiiiiight.

The simple fact that we don't have a scholarship for him is enough to make me extremely skeptical. Not to mention his impact on 2011 recruiting, the fact he would have to sit out a year or the issue around his playing time here should he decide to transfer.

I am very surprised that this story has any legs, really. I appreciate anyone providing insiders info, but I would be hesitant to accept this as fact.

But who knows, Yates did say something major was on the horizon. Now Ryan says the story has legs, we will just see. In any event...

Patience my friend...patience

combes · Dec 16, 2009, 09:45 AM

We won't take Colvin or Darius Smith or any point guard being rumored. We don't have a scholarship available for next year. And Randle is better than both of them.

*Serious Late* · Dec 16, 2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by IlliniCrusader

Patience my friend...patience

That... will... be... tough

MTILLINOIS · Dec 16, 2009, 09:50 AM

Colvin would be a welcome upgrade in helping the offense bringing up the ball against full court pressure. At this moment it's Dmac and nobody else. Our other kids just aren't strong with the dribble. As I say this, I'm excluding Head because I haven't seen him play.

*illini4everjp* · Dec 16, 2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by goillini354

That... will... be... tough

Assuming that you have a life and a job, etc, it shouldn't be

*Serious Late* · Dec 16, 2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by illini4everjp

Assuming that you have a life and a job, etc, it shouldn't be

Damn.

*Illest* · Dec 16, 2009, 09:59 AM

Looking at the stats, Colvin has had a disaster of a season so far at ISU. He has a 38.5 TS%, he's turning the ball over on nearly half (!) of his possessions, and he's committing tons of fouls without drawing too many. He's making Legion's year last year look good; he is, by an order of magnitude, the worst offensive player on ISU's roster. But amazingly, the coaching staff there is leaving him in the game for double figure minutes a night.

In short, if he thinks minutes are an issue, he needs to transfer to a D-III school, because few D-I schools would be as generous as ISU's been. We'd be happy to have him as a walk-on, but I can't imagine that he's a better use of a scholarship than other guys we could find.

combes · Dec 16, 2009, 10:01 AM

The problem is that Colvin would not be eligible until next December. It would be difficult for him to move into the rotation that has been established through the first part of the season. Jordan will be a senior and will have been the backup point guard for two years.

Plus, we don't have a scholarship for him, so it is a moot point. We are currently trying to figure out how to get enough scholarships just for the guys we already have coming in. Colvin will not be here. imo

NV Illini 74 · Dec 16, 2009, 10:02 AM

If Ryan says the rumor has legs, then it has legs.

THIS year, we have a ride available. Only 12 kids have rides right now.

NEXT year, with 3 kids coming in, we are already at 14 rides, 1 over.

Most folks think Semrau won't come back for his 5th year. This year's BT season we might need his bulk, and BW might want talk him into returning. Or maybe not.

OTOH...

Legion will be a senior next year, and he could transfer and play right away, somewhere else.

Simpson has had problems getting to his classroom. Maybe those are over, maybe not.

I don't see anyone else on our roster that would not come back for the 2010/11 season, which is the primary one in question.

I always liked what I heard about Colvin's game, and especially the "Chicago connection" through his dad, Ike.

Kindof "expensive", tho, if you figure his ride will take one away from either the 2011 or 2012 classes, and all the great prospects we are in good shape with.

I wonder if there might be any connection with Colvin and Blackshear?

combes · Dec 16, 2009, 10:07 AM

RyanK is a great source of info on here. But I pretty confident that Colvin will not end up at Illinois even if he transfers somewhere.

Reasons:
We don't have a scholarship.
Don't want to screw up the Randle recruitment.
Randle is a better ballplayer.
Transfers don't work out that often. Yes, there are exceptions.
He would come in at midseason next year and not be that much help for that season.
The following year we get Abrams and hopefully Randle.
I also have a source. A very good one.

Groundhogday · Dec 16, 2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOPDOG

You don't put a transfer on a scholarship next year and he uses one of the 7 in 2011. However I don't think we will be accepting a transfer, at least not on a scholarship, for the same reason everyone else has said. By next year we will have plenty of guards.

No, if he transfers over break, you have to give him a scholarship right away even though he has to sit out for a year (unless he can pay his own way). We don't have the scholarship to give.

Dec 16, 2009, 08:21 AM	#83
PLauderdale30 Posts: 1,182	Here is another thing, if youre a guard/forward and you are upset about not getting enough playing time somewhere, why would you want to transfer to Illinois right now? Unless you are just dying to go there for the education or really like the guys/coaches, it doesnt make sense if you want playing time. If playing time is what you really want, slide down the chart, not up it. If it is the intangibles, why did you come to Illinois to begin with?

Dec 16, 2009, 08:42 AM	#86
james81 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,298	If true, this is an example where we know nothing about Weber's strategic thinking and have no idea who the player is. There's not enough information to speculate in a worthwhile way. Would be an interesting development, though.

Dec 16, 2009, 08:49 AM	#87
Illini1956 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,523	EVAN Turner point guard Chicago not getting any playing time right now

Dec 16, 2009, 09:45 AM	#91
combes Posts: 1,069	We won't take Colvin or Darius Smith or any point guard being rumored. We don't have a scholarship available for next year. And Randle is better than both of them.

Dec 16, 2009, 09:50 AM	#93
MTILLINOIS Location: Chicago Posts: 1,662	Colvin would be a welcome upgrade in helping the offense bringing up the ball against full court pressure. At this moment it's Dmac and nobody else. Our other kids just aren't strong with the dribble. As I say this, I'm excluding Head because I haven't seen him play.

Dec 16, 2009, 09:59 AM	#96
Illest Location: Boston Posts: 5,077	Looking at the stats, Colvin has had a disaster of a season so far at ISU. He has a 38.5 TS%, he's turning the ball over on nearly half (!) of his possessions, and he's committing tons of fouls without drawing too many. He's making Legion's year last year look good; he is, by an order of magnitude, the worst offensive player on ISU's roster. But amazingly, the coaching staff there is leaving him in the game for double figure minutes a night. In short, if he thinks minutes are an issue, he needs to transfer to a D-III school, because few D-I schools would be as generous as ISU's been. We'd be happy to have him as a walk-on, but I can't imagine that he's a better use of a scholarship than other guys we could find.

Dec 16, 2009, 10:01 AM	#97
combes Posts: 1,069	The problem is that Colvin would not be eligible until next December. It would be difficult for him to move into the rotation that has been established through the first part of the season. Jordan will be a senior and will have been the backup point guard for two years. Plus, we don't have a scholarship for him, so it is a moot point. We are currently trying to figure out how to get enough scholarships just for the guys we already have coming in. Colvin will not be here. imo

Dec 16, 2009, 10:02 AM	#98
NV Illini 74 Posts: 3,730	If Ryan says the rumor has legs, then it has legs. THIS year, we have a ride available. Only 12 kids have rides right now. NEXT year, with 3 kids coming in, we are already at 14 rides, 1 over. Most folks think Semrau won't come back for his 5th year. This year's BT season we might need his bulk, and BW might want talk him into returning. Or maybe not. OTOH... Legion will be a senior next year, and he could transfer and play right away, somewhere else. Simpson has had problems getting to his classroom. Maybe those are over, maybe not. I don't see anyone else on our roster that would not come back for the 2010/11 season, which is the primary one in question. I always liked what I heard about Colvin's game, and especially the "Chicago connection" through his dad, Ike. Kindof "expensive", tho, if you figure his ride will take one away from either the 2011 or 2012 classes, and all the great prospects we are in good shape with. I wonder if there might be any connection with Colvin and Blackshear?

Dec 16, 2009, 10:07 AM	#99
combes Posts: 1,069	RyanK is a great source of info on here. But I pretty confident that Colvin will not end up at Illinois even if he transfers somewhere. Reasons: We don't have a scholarship. Don't want to screw up the Randle recruitment. Randle is a better ballplayer. Transfers don't work out that often. Yes, there are exceptions. He would come in at midseason next year and not be that much help for that season. The following year we get Abrams and hopefully Randle. I also have a source. A very good one.