Mike Shaw had his official visit; will announce decision 3:00pm CT

[jlf26]

Originally Posted by Obelix

I said it before and I'll say it again, it is not a good idea for Klee to publish such an article at this time. It does more harm than good. It just makes the recruiting efforts of the Illini staff more difficult. Somethings are better left unsaid.

Even from a journalistic perspective, it not a great piece either. It just drops hints and innuendos rather than saying "what it is." It is just food for internet boards to go rampant on rumors and accusations that can go in all directions, depending on anyone's imagination. From a journalistic standpoint, if you have something to say it, then say it!

A bad idea to publish it from an Illini perspective. A bad idea to just drop hints and innuendos from a journalistic standpoint.

Or it could just as easy have the opposite effect by shining a light on the handlers agenda IMO. As they won't want their underhanded efforts put on display for public viewing. Thus driving them further into the background with their effort to influence M. Shaw.

[Obelix]

Originally Posted by jlf26

Or it could just as easy have the opposite effect by shining a light on the handlers agenda IMO. As they won't want their underhanded efforts put on display for public viewing. Thus driving them further into the background with their effort to influence M. Shaw.

Not sure what you mean.

[WesterveltVictoryCigar]

Originally Posted by Capt Slammie

Yes, until I hear the commitment pass from Mike Shaw's heart, up and through his vocal cords, and out his mouth, I am NOT convinced. But, until that moment, I'm going to wallow in the cool mud of ignorance, and enjoy the thought that he did the right thing. oink, oink

Then we have to wait for him to actually sign the LOI next month. And of course since he just took the ACT, we have to worry until he gets those results. Graduation is the next concern, that's not until next spring! And don't forget about the Clearinghouse, they might not OK him until the 2011 season begins!

[jlf26]

Originally Posted by Obelix

Not sure what you mean.

What I mean is if you are a cheating handler that is looking for a handout.
And that fact or opinion is made public, you may be inclined to backoff because it could hurt you with future recruits and or getting top players to play for your AAU team or your next meal ticket.

[jmuhney]

This was in todays paper:
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x29402354...-pick-Illinois

[Obelix]

Originally Posted by jlf26

What I mean is if you are a cheating handler that is looking for a handout.
And that fact or opinion is made public, you may be inclined to backoff because it could hurt you with future recruits and or getting top players to play for your AAU team or your next meal ticket.

OK but that falls into the second category, which the article does not do either. Other than dropping hints and innuendos, the article does not really expose anyone.

[jmuhney]

Wow, after reading the article in the SJR, it dawned on me how awesome it would be to get this guy! A 6' 8" MSU type rebounder/monster - amazing! I sure hope all goes according to plan today!

[Obelix]

Originally Posted by jmuhney

Wow, after reading the article in the SJR, it dawned on me how awesome it would be to get this guy! A 6' 8" MSU type rebounder/monster - amazing! I sure hope all goes according to plan today!

I am actually hoping it goes according to plan tomorrow! Who cares about today? :laugh:

[Botb9]

Originally Posted by jmuhney

This was in todays paper:
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x29402354...-pick-Illinois

Another case of a headline mis-stating what is being said. Henricksen says he believes Shaw will pick Illinois, but you never know. Meanwhile, the headline implies he is picking Illinois.

Frankly, the Klee thing is tame compared to some of these other publications we're seeing. But after one analyst jumps the gun, it puts extreme pressure on other publications to do leg-work and get something out there. Example: after the Brett Favre scandal was broken by Deadspin, TMZ seemed completely quiet about it. They're usually on scene before the ambulances arrive, if you know what I mean. And here it took them two days after Deadspin broke the story to even put up a single article about it. They finally were pressured into it after receiving accusations of racism in their differing treatments of Brett Favre and Tiger Woods under what was essentially the same scandal. They had to keep up with the Joneses, so to speak. I think this is why Klee kept the article short and more focused on what it would mean to the Illinois team of 2011.

I personally believe he should have kept his tense in a future participle "I-don't-really-know-what's-going-on-even-though-I-really-do" sort of way. What would it mean to Illinois if Shaw commits? Rather than portraying it as a done deal, he could have spun it like, "Well there are reports that he's committing, but I'm not going to affirm them. I'll simply give my take on what happens if they end up true."

[illinicb]

Originally Posted by jmuhney

This was in todays paper:
http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x29402354...-pick-Illinois

“The more I hear, I believe it will be Illinois. I would be surprised if it wouldn’t be Illinois. But that’s the way of the landscape in recruiting. You don’t know until everything is done."

There you have it in a nutshell.

[Obelix]

Originally Posted by Botb9

Another case of a headline mis-stating what is being said. Henricksen says he believes Shaw will pick Illinois, but you never know. Meanwhile, the headline implies he is picking Illinois.

I believe the word "expected" is indeed missing from the article. However, both the Sun-Times and Tribune have gone on record that "according to their sources", it "will" be Illinois. That is different from the Purdue writer, for example, saying that it is just his opinion/guess that it will be Stanford for Randle. Big difference IMO.

Sun-Times and Tribune have gone on record. You get the fame, you get the blame. We'll see how it goes tomorrow.

[donoho1]

Originally Posted by Obelix

I believe the word "expected" is indeed missing from the article. However, both the Sun-Times and Tribune have gone on record that "according to their sources", it "will" be Illinois. That is different from the Purdue writer, for example, saying that it is just his opinion/guess that it will be Stanford for Randle. Big difference IMO.

Sun-Times and Tribune have gone on record. You get the fame, you get the blame. We'll see how it goes tomorrow.

Anyone know what time the announcement will be made?

[Obelix]

Originally Posted by donoho1

Anyone know what time the announcement will be made?

It's on the title of the thread. 3pm CST.

[Kramer116]

Originally Posted by donoho1

Anyone know what time the announcement will be made?

I am going to predict we will know by 3:07 PM.

[jmuhney]

Originally Posted by Obelix

I am actually hoping it goes according to plan tomorrow! Who cares about today? :laugh:

I guess today is Wednesday isn't it!? Well, I wish it were Thursday at 3:00

[PLauderdale30]

Originally Posted by Botb9

Another case of a headline mis-stating what is being said. Henricksen says he believes Shaw will pick Illinois, but you never know. Meanwhile, the headline implies he is picking Illinois.

Frankly, the Klee thing is tame compared to some of these other publications we're seeing. But after one analyst jumps the gun, it puts extreme pressure on other publications to do leg-work and get something out there. Example: after the Brett Favre scandal was broken by Deadspin, TMZ seemed completely quiet about it. They're usually on scene before the ambulances arrive, if you know what I mean. And here it took them two days after Deadspin broke the story to even put up a single article about it. They finally were pressured into it after receiving accusations of racism in their differing treatments of Brett Favre and Tiger Woods under what was essentially the same scandal. They had to keep up with the Joneses, so to speak. I think this is why Klee kept the article short and more focused on what it would mean to the Illinois team of 2011.

I personally believe he should have kept his tense in a future participle "I-don't-really-know-what's-going-on-even-though-I-really-do" sort of way. What would it mean to Illinois if Shaw commits? Rather than portraying it as a done deal, he could have spun it like, "Well there are reports that he's committing, but I'm not going to affirm them. I'll simply give my take on what happens if they end up true."

Actually, the biggest problem I had with this article was this tidbit:

Meanwhile, a report from the Lafayette (Ind.) Journal and Courier said Rock Island senior Chasson Randle is leaning towards Stanford. Randle also has Illinois and Purdue as his finalists.

This implies that there was some sort of basis or sound reasoning on the part of the Lafayette journalist who made that statement. A normal newspaper reader would read that paragraph and draw that Randle is probably going to Stanford. Supposedly we will find out today whether that is indeed true, but the article by the Lafayette journalist was nothing more than personal opinion and speculation. It wasnt much different than an IL poster posting their opinion on a detination.

It just bothered me that the article by the Lafayette Journal which was pure speculation was turned into more than that.

[illiniparkie]

http://www.illinihq.com/blogs/recrui...cations_on_off

"Defensively, he can go out on the perimeter and guard somebody, and then on the inside he can play pretty well on the post defense or stepping up the lane. I think defensively he's very, very versatile inside and outside," said Tom White, Shaw's high school coach.

White said Shaw has a lot of "growth" left in his game, believing he's in the "learning stages" still and will benefit from more instruction at the next level. As for Shaw's potential impact at Illinois, it's widely assumed that he would receive playing time right away because Illinois will be thin down low after the graduation of Mike Tisdale and Mike Davis. In that situation, it's likely Shaw would be asked to do what he does best: rebound. His offensive game still needs some refining, but White gives a positive breakdown and says he will be dangerous, even if it takes some time.

[UncleBob]

Westerlund's HQ article linked above also says:

"On the offensive side, he can shoot the 3 or drive in and use both hands to score around the basket...He can create on his own with a dribble or two and get to the basket," White said. "He has great backboard touch."

Since I'm left handed, I noticed on some of the videos of Shaw that he made some shots and moves with his left hand......does anyone know if he is left handed?

[Kramer116]

Originally Posted by UncleBob

Westerlund's HQ article linked above also says:

"On the offensive side, he can shoot the 3 or drive in and use both hands to score around the basket...He can create on his own with a dribble or two and get to the basket," White said. "He has great backboard touch."

Since I'm left handed, I noticed on some of the videos of Shaw that he made some shots and moves with his left hand......does anyone know if he is left handed?

Shaw is right handed.

[mytwocents]

What a perfect fit for Mike and Chasson if they become Illini. Illinois high school basketball players are fantastic and they look great in orange and blue. Flying Illini part II is on the runway get your tickets and enjoy the flight!

[4LaCosaNostra]

if shaw was not choosing illinois.... his family/coaches would be alllll over the place - media, newspapers, online, blogs, etc. saying no decision has been made and there are still 3 great schools in the running etc. last thing the family wants is "this" happening (all assuming he is illini bound) and then have it look like the state school was lead on or blown off. he is coming to illinois

[DaytonIllini]

Originally Posted by Obelix

I said it before and I'll say it again, it is not a good idea for Klee to publish such an article at this time. It does more harm than good. It just makes the recruiting efforts of the Illini staff more difficult. Somethings are better left unsaid.

Even from a journalistic perspective, it not a great piece either. It just drops hints and innuendos rather than saying "what it is." It is just food for internet boards to go rampant on rumors and accusations that can go in all directions, depending on anyone's imagination. From a journalistic standpoint, if you have something to say it, then say it!

A bad idea to publish it from an Illini perspective. A bad idea to just drop hints and innuendos from a journalistic standpoint.

+1

[DaytonIllini]

Originally Posted by 4LaCosaNostra

if shaw was not choosing illinois.... his family/coaches would be alllll over the place - media, newspapers, online, blogs, etc. saying no decision has been made and there are still 3 great schools in the running etc. last thing the family wants is "this" happening (all assuming he is illini bound) and then have it look like the state school was lead on or blown off. he is coming to illinois

Unless they purposefully leaked the Illinois thing knowing that a change from that tomorrow would get more attention.

Until these kids sign LOI, I would not bank on anything when dealing with 17 yr olds.

[Capt Slammie]

Originally Posted by 4LaCosaNostra

if shaw was not choosing illinois.... his family/coaches would be alllll over the place - media, newspapers, online, blogs, etc. saying no decision has been made and there are still 3 great schools in the running etc. last thing the family wants is "this" happening (all assuming he is illini bound) and then have it look like the state school was lead on or blown off. he is coming to illinois

+1.1 Good thought. One never knows, though.

[Botb9]

If only IDKWTI's family had had such forward thinking.