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Old May 31, 2012, 11:44 AM   #1826
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I don't know if this is old news or not, But Darian Hicks (3* from Solon, Ohio) seems to be leaning towards two programs. This is all in the Rumor Central part of ESPN's insider thing so I won't really go any further since I pay for the service. But everyone on this board SHOULD be happy about one of the two schools. The other may or may not have the same letters in their abbreviated name as SMU.

Dan, if this is too much than sorry about that and go ahead and delete. I tried to keep it vague yet obvious...
Can you give a link? I have insider but can't find what you're talking about.
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Old May 31, 2012, 11:57 AM   #1827
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Hicks would be a fabulous pickup.
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Old May 31, 2012, 12:15 PM   #1828
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I think you are okay as long as you don't quote the article. Hicks will be hard to pull away from MSU, though.
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Old May 31, 2012, 12:47 PM   #1829
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Ryan of the 3 mentioned between Mosley, Augusta and Howard who do you think would be the best prospect for us to land. I know Howard is the highest ranked on the sites. But specifically who would help this team the most. I think I'd go with Mosely buy Augusta is right up there. Then Howard becomes really important if JB45 leaves. I think all 3 should be considered must gets.
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Old May 31, 2012, 01:03 PM   #1830
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I remember our old DC Vic talk about Cooper and Dickinson about how well they have come along throughout the season and how they were guys he was excited about.....so from that i feel like our depth at LB is solid even if JB45 leaves early for next year

i think the more pressure u get on a QB the better in any situation so i think Augusta would be my pick

but when u look at all the guys we already have that are young: Caldwell, Williams, Powell, Clements, Jackson, Gibbs that we seem to be talent full in this area

so maybe my mind would change and go with Mosley at CB
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Old May 31, 2012, 02:30 PM   #1831
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Ryan of the 3 mentioned between Mosley, Augusta and Howard who do you think would be the best prospect for us to land. I know Howard is the highest ranked on the sites. But specifically who would help this team the most. I think I'd go with Mosely buy Augusta is right up there. Then Howard becomes really important if JB45 leaves. I think all 3 should be considered must gets.
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1) Mosley (we have a massive need for CBs who can contribute immediately)

2) Augusta (can never have too many DL types)

3) Howard (we actually have some good young LBs)
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Old May 31, 2012, 03:59 PM   #1832
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Jack had a post on scout that we were in good shape with Ohio RB Aregeros Turner. This kid situation is simular to donnovon young where he had an injury lastyear and that slowed his recruitment. He is a high 3* player.
I want, I want, I want, I want
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Old May 31, 2012, 05:21 PM   #1833
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I wonder when the one out of Mosley, Augusta, Howard will commit? Hmmm
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Old May 31, 2012, 05:58 PM   #1834
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We made Mizzels top 10.

3rd post down.
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Old May 31, 2012, 08:13 PM   #1835
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to be able to get Mizzel at RB would be unreal.....i dn if we have a realistic shot at him but to be able to get Bailey 4* QB from instate and then get a top notch RB 4* from the VA area would be sick
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Old May 31, 2012, 08:45 PM   #1836
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Good news on mizzel. That kid is a stud.
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 01:21 AM   #1837
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I know This is a 2013 thread but I was browsing Espn recruiting site and came upon this. Sounds promising for us!!!
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfr...t%3fid%3d12235
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 06:25 AM   #1838
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I know This is a 2013 thread but I was browsing Espn recruiting site and came upon this. Sounds promising for us!!!
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfr...t%3fid%3d12235
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...-Barker-130567

Early offers from Illinois, Louisville, and Cincinnati.
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 06:58 AM   #1839
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Clements missed being a 4* player by 1 spot on Rivals. The Cut off was at 18 and he was ranked #19. Augusta is ranked right behind him at 20. I'm willinig to bet you right now if he went to OSU or UM, he would be a 4* player.


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Old Jun 1, 2012, 07:23 AM   #1840
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Clements missed being a 4* player by 1 spot on Rivals. The Cut off was at 18 and he was ranked #19. Augusta is ranked right behind him at 20. I'm willinig to bet you right now if he went to OSU or UM, he would be a 4* player.


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not a doubt about it.
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 07:27 AM   #1841
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Looks like Bailey dropped to 5th from 4th in his position rankings and Kenton Gibbs went from 30 to 34.
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 07:35 AM   #1842
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Looks like Bailey dropped to 5th from 4th in his position rankings and Kenton Gibbs went from 30 to 34.
They havent played 1 down yet this season and somehow they drop.:rolleyes:
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 07:39 AM   #1843
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New offers:

Kyrion Parker - 3 star WR from Manvel, TX

Marquion Lane - 3 star WR from Deland, FL

Wesley Bullock - 2 star RB from Plant, FL

Ramar Dennis - 3 star DE from Orlando, FL

Cameron Sutton - 3 star CB from Jonesboro, GA


Players that have committed elsewhere:
Ethan Pocic - LSU
Zach Crabtree - Oklahoma State
Ali Groves - South Carolina
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 07:41 AM   #1844
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They havent played 1 down yet this season and somehow they drop.:rolleyes:
Bailey's is simply because he didn't do Elite 11 and a kid who did jumped him.
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 07:50 AM   #1845
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New offers:

Kyrion Parker - 3 star WR from Manvel, TX
Kyrion Parker grew up in the Urbana area or he has family here iirc.
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 09:10 AM   #1846
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Clements missed being a 4* player by 1 spot on Rivals. The Cut off was at 18 and he was ranked #19. Augusta is ranked right behind him at 20. I'm willinig to bet you right now if he went to OSU or UM, he would be a 4* player.


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Wow. Yeah I agree 100%
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 09:54 AM   #1847
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Well I have a short story about Stars....my Older brother was a 3 time all state 2 time 1st team Olineman in Ohio when he was in H.S....he was 6'4 290 with solid footwork and very strong (probably strongest in the Toledo Area)

Scout had him as a 3* and after he got ranked he went to the big Midwest Oline Camp and was named MVP of the camp and everyone from WISCY and OSU ND MICH and some SEC schools took notice

and even after he had a decent offer list of big ten schools and a few SEC schools and they "reviewed his profile" he went down in ranking

hands down one of the top in the state of Ohio at the time and was in contention for receiving a bid to the All American game and he went down in ranking!!!

then he tore his ACL after he won states his JR year and everyone backed off of him

but goes to show not one thing negative happened while he was being reviewed and his ranking went down even

so me and him follow recruiting very very close and he is living proof that rankings are all but Size and popularity contest

me and him just talked about for an hour bout this a few days ago about how certain kids just work better in certain situations

so when coaches say about a kid "he just fits what we are looking for" thats 100% true about kids

its not all about stars
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 10:07 AM   #1848
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so stars, in my opinion, only mean so much....we rather look at film ourselves and there offer sheet to fully get a more accurate assessment of prospects


for example me and my brother were talking about Teko Powell for example: 2*/3* on most sites but he had great size at 6'3 280 looked great on film with his explosiveness and strength and penetrating abilities....and his offer list was way better then what his "stars" suggested so me and him both think that he was an absolute steal for Illinois

but the weird thing is Powell did produce at the camps and combines for HS kids and he still wasn't rated very high

but anyone who saw film and or saw his offer sheet could see that colleges, despite his star ranking, knew he was a great ball player
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 10:36 AM   #1849
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They havent played 1 down yet this season and somehow they drop.:rolleyes:
People say this stuff like it's some grand conspiracy theory that big schools commits go up and lesser schools commits go down. It's literally true though, and it makes a certain amount of sense if you think about it. We go on and on about offer lists being the most important thing, and they are, and where someone chooses to commit is just kind of an extension of that. If Illinois beats Ohio State for a kid, that would seem to suggest that Ohio State didn't want them as much, or that Illinois was offering something in terms of playing time or position or whatever that tOSU couldn't. Obviously that's going to be wrong on certain occasions, but sites like Rivals are in the business of guessing.

So again, don't sweat subtle distinctions in Rivals rankings. It's easy to scout who is #1 in the class versus #10. It's damn near impossible for #289 versus #306 or whatever. We just need to be beating our B1G competition for guys that fit what we're trying to do.
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 10:38 AM   #1850
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People say this stuff like it's some grand conspiracy theory that big schools commits go up and lesser schools commits go down. It's literally true though, and it makes a certain amount of sense if you think about it. We go on and on about offer lists being the most important thing, and they are, and where someone chooses to commit is just kind of an extension of that. If Illinois beats Ohio State for a kid, that would seem to suggest that Ohio State didn't want them as much, or that Illinois was offering something in terms of playing time or position or whatever that tOSU couldn't. Obviously that's going to be wrong on certain occasions, but sites like Rivals are in the business of guessing.

So again, don't sweat subtle distinctions in Rivals rankings. It's easy to scout who is #1 in the class versus #10. It's damn near impossible for #289 versus #306 or whatever. We just need to be beating our B1G competition for guys that fit what we're trying to do.
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