Are you a terrorist?

[illinirazorback]

Apparently I am, according to Homeland Security.

Homeland Security Report Lists ‘Liberty Lovers’ As Terrorists

http://www.infowars.com/homeland-sec...as-terrorists/

A new study funded by the Department of Homeland Security characterizes Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.

The report takes its definitions from a 2011 study entitled Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism, produced by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism, in which the following characteristics are used to identify terrorists.
- Americans who believe their “way of life” is under attack;
- Americans who are “fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)”;
- People who consider themselves “anti-global” (presumably those who are wary of the loss of American sovereignty);
- Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority”;
- Americans who are “reverent of individual liberty”;
- People who “believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty.”

[DaytonIllini]

Originally Posted by illinirazorback

Apparently I am, according to Homeland Security.

Homeland Security Report Lists ‘Liberty Lovers’ As Terrorists

http://www.infowars.com/homeland-sec...as-terrorists/

Where are Muslims on that list?

[illinirazorback]

Originally Posted by DaytonIllini

Where are Muslims on that list?

Apparently they are not on there. They are just a misunderstood group, don't you know.

[Sure Shot]

Originally Posted by illinirazorback

Apparently they are not on there. They are just a misunderstood group, don't you know.

Actually they are the 3rd category down, after Extreme Left Wing.

Sorry to interrupt you guys, I know this molehill isn't going to make itself into a mountain. :rolleyes:

[illinirazorback]

Originally Posted by Sure Shot

Actually they are the 3rd category down, after Extreme Left Wing.

Sorry to interrupt you guys, I know this molehill isn't going to make itself into a mountain. :rolleyes:

Seriously, don't be a punk.

[DaytonIllini]

Originally Posted by Sure Shot

Actually they are the 3rd category down, after Extreme Left Wing.

Sorry to interrupt you guys, I know this molehill isn't going to make itself into a mountain. :rolleyes:

Actually they are listed under Religious. Before Right Wing and Left Wing groups.

[Sure Shot]

Originally Posted by illinirazorback

Seriously, don't be a punk.

Seriously, don't post paranoia-baiting nonsense.

[illinirazorback]

Originally Posted by Sure Shot

Seriously, don't post paranoia-baiting nonsense.

If that's what you call it, then apparently you took the bait then, didn't you?

[DaytonIllini]

It's silly. Everyone with a brain knows that the vast majority of terrorism in the world is committed by Muslims. After that, in the USA, the biggest source of events is Environmental wackos. After that, the risk for any other group is vanishingly slim though non-zero.

[illinirazorback]

Originally Posted by DaytonIllini

It's silly. Everyone with a brain knows that the vast majority of terrorism in the world is committed by Muslims. After that, in the USA, the biggest source of events is Environmental wackos. After that, the risk for any other group is vanishingly slim though non-zero.

Exactly. I think the whole report is silly. Apparently others think I'm implying something sinister. No, I just think it's another example of how our government is pathetically naive and inherently ignorant.

[Sure Shot]

Originally Posted by illinirazorback

If that's what you call it, then apparently you took the bait then, didn't you?

If you are just a very elaborate ruse, then you are doing a spectacular job.

[illinirazorback]

Originally Posted by Sure Shot

If you are just a very elaborate ruse, then you are doing a spectacular job.

Oh I see, you're one of those "last word" guys. LAST WORD.

[Sure Shot]

Originally Posted by illinirazorback

Exactly. I think the whole report is silly. Apparently others think I'm implying something sinister. No, I just think it's another example of how our government is pathetically naive and inherently ignorant.

First of all, extrapolating some rinky-dink study from a middling public university to be "what the government thinks" is completely absurd.

Secondly, the study doesn't conclude anything about types of terrorist groups and where they are likely to strike or whatever. Oh, sorry, spoiler alert, since I'm sure you planned on actually reading the study. :rolleyes:

I hope you know the people who produce drivel like that link you posted don't believe a single, solitary word of what they are writing. They are performers, creating their desired narrative by dredging the internet for keywords and knowing no one will ever bother to double-check their work anyway. You're like a WWF fan who believes it's all real.

[illinirazorback]

Yeah OK.

[Sure Shot]

Originally Posted by illinirazorback

Yeah OK.

I got you a present

[AHSIllini32]

Originally Posted by illinirazorback

Seriously, don't be a punk.

And by that Sure, he means don't make credible, accurate statements when we are trying to trash the government and/or Obama:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Sure Shot

Actually they are the 3rd category down, after Extreme Left Wing.

Sorry to interrupt you guys, I know this molehill isn't going to make itself into a mountain. :rolleyes:

:laugh:

[DaytonIllini]

The most interesting parts of that report are Figures 1, 2, 3 which show how much terror has diminished since 1970 in this country.

Table 1 shows 364 extreme left wing events vs 58 extreme right wing events. Ethno cleansers are high on the list but virtually all of those events occurred in New York City, Chicago or LA.

[DaytonIllini]

Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

And by that Sure, he means don't make credible, accurate statements when we are trying to trash the government and/or Obama:rolleyes:



:laugh:

Ahh, another guy that will leave the minute something he says is proven incorrect. Are you still claiming the economy is great?

[Sure Shot]

Originally Posted by DaytonIllini

The most interesting parts of that report are Figures 1, 2, 3 which show how much terror has diminished since 1970 in this country.

Table 1 shows 364 extreme left wing events vs 58 extreme right wing events. Ethno cleansers are high on the list but virtually all of those events occurred in New York City, Chicago or LA.

What's really interesting is that left-wing terrorism was at its peak during the Carter administration whereas right-wing terrorism peaked during the Reagan administration. Go figure.

To be honest, I think the lot of it is just statistical noise. And the good news, of course, is that this stuff doesn't happen very often anymore.

[DaytonIllini]

Originally Posted by Sure Shot

What's really interesting is that left-wing terrorism was at its peak during the Carter administration whereas right-wing terrorism peaked during the Reagan administration. Go figure.

To be honest, I think the lot of it is just statistical noise. And the good news, of course, is that this stuff doesn't happen very often anymore.

Agreed. I was surprised to see no Left or Right Wing extremism in the "decade" of 2000-8.

[illinirazorback]

Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

And by that Sure, he means don't make credible, accurate statements when we are trying to trash the government and/or Obama:rolleyes:



:laugh:

Yep. But of course that's not what happened here, so carry on. Or disappear after being proven wrong again, whichever you like.

[Sure Shot]

Originally Posted by DaytonIllini

Agreed. I was surprised to see no Left or Right Wing extremism in the "decade" of 2000-8.

I think a lot of it might have to do with a police department circa-1980 having absolutely no idea how to deal with a potential domestic terrorist threat.

Between Waco, Timothy McVeigh, 9/11, whatever, we've figured it out the hard way.

[TechDawg]

fiercely nationalistic

guilty