Media like Michigan vs Wisconsin in Big Ten title game

IllinoisTed · Jul 22, 2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaKid101

There are reasons why things do and don't happen. I've laid out why I think things went different than my predictions. Its a waste of time posting back and forth, but also because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Posts of yours you calling Scheelhaase an 'erratic' passer show that (He completed over 63% last year and will jump to 68-71% this year IMO). What's the point of arguing with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

Nate is a nice QB but he is a bit erratic at times when it counts. I don't care what his completion % was last year. He threw some pretty awful balls that cost is at times.

You're nothing but hype, hype, hype. And excuse making.

Hoppy2105 · Jul 22, 2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaKid101

ST coverage has been very good (Name the last time they gave up a return TD).

Last year against Indiana. First play of the game a little over 9 months ago. 10-8-11

IllinoisTed · Jul 22, 2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoppy2105

Last year against Indiana. First play of the game a little over 9 months ago. 10-8-11

Lol. Nice.

Kramer116 · Jul 22, 2012, 02:04 PM

Who is Wisconsin's QB this season?

ThaKid101 · Jul 22, 2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoppy2105

Last year against Indiana. First play of the game a little over 9 months ago. 10-8-11

Yeah that slipped my mind, but the point is they were good.

ThaKid101 · Jul 22, 2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kramer116

Who is Wisconsin's QB this season?

I think they got a transfer from Kansas.

IllinoisTed · Jul 22, 2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaKid101

I think they got a transfer from Kansas.

Actually he's from Maryland. O'Brien. Not as good as Wilson but still solid and capable of handing the ball off to a stud RB running behind a monster wall of OL.

Illini87InClt · Jul 22, 2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kramer116

Who is Wisconsin's QB this season?

Joe Brennan appears to be the favorite to be starting at QB but Wisconsin just got Danny O'Brien as a transfer from Maryland. Two other possibilities for QB (Jon Budmayr and Bart Houston are out for 2012 with both having recent surgeries).

Hoppy2105 · Jul 22, 2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaKid101

Yeah that slipped my mind, but the point is they were good.

No worries, I was letting you know. And I wouldn't say they were good. They were average. They only gave up the one TD which is nice, but about half the teams we played improved their average KR yards against us.(meaning their overall average KR yards for the season was lower than their KR yards when they played us)

2 teams got no returns at all and 4 teams declined and went below their season average. So for 4 out of 12 games (technically only 10 games) our coverage team did well and 6 out of 12 they did below average to poor. I also attribute our successes (the games with no returns at all or we did well) to having an all star future NFL kicker.

For us to be better, we need to mimic Dimke with Frain and also improve on our coverage. Both of these CAN be done considering we have Tim Salem as the ST coordinator but I will hold my breath until the first kickoff this year.

AHSIllini32 · Jul 22, 2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaKid101

Yeah that slipped my mind, but the point is they were good.

Stats say otherwise.

ThaKid101 · Jul 22, 2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

Stats say otherwise.

Regardless of what people think, it wasn't bad. Stats don't always tell the story, especially in ST where the numbers are skewed anyway.

danielb927 · Jul 22, 2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaKid101

Regardless of what people think, it wasn't bad. Stats don't always tell the story, especially in ST where the numbers are skewed anyway.

I don't remember our coverage being particularly bad either. The awful special teams stats were mostly due to the complete lack of a kick/punt return game. I mean, we were lucky to get a positive number of yards on any return last year.

saleen970 · Jul 22, 2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by danielb927

I don't remember our coverage being particularly bad either. The awful special teams stats were mostly due to the complete lack of a kick/punt return game. I mean, we were lucky to get a positive number of yards on any return last year.

I agree and even with the loss of Dimke I think our ST will be better, not great but better coached.

illinifan3923 · Jul 22, 2012, 06:42 PM

Another problem with the special teams last year was how many times we didn't even get a punt off. Does that factor into return coverage?

Indicchief · Jul 22, 2012, 07:57 PM

My prediction (not that it matters) 9-3 or better for 2012-13 season.

As a 1979 grad, I went through a couple of 0-11 (IIRC) FB seasons - attended every game though (Michigan had a refund policy then = so we returned their coach.

) (Heck, was at the game when we beat MSU for the #1 spot in BB - only to slide from there because we lost our only PG. Well, such is life.) Seems to me we are returning to a cleaner version of the White era

in FB. (And, if I may be so presumptuous, I thing we will set new records in BB!!

)

In MT I trust.

Quality + consistency.

Flying Illini!!!!! FB + BB.

ThaKid101 · Jul 22, 2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Indicchief

My prediction (not that it matters) 9-3 or better for 2012-13 season.

As a 1979 grad, I went through a couple of 0-11 (IIRC) FB seasons - attended every game though (Michigan had a refund policy then = so we returned their coach.

) (Heck, was at the game when we beat MSU for the #1 spot in BB - only to slide from there because we lost our only PG. Well, such is life.) Seems to me we are returning to a cleaner version of the White era

in FB. (And, if I may be so presumptuous, I thing we will set new records in BB!!

)

In MT I trust.

Quality + consistency.

Flying Illini!!!!! FB + BB.

That's pretty cool. And I agree about a lot of records being set. They have two outstanding coaches on campus and a lot of talent/recruits coming in on both teams. As for your prediction of 9-3, that is my safe bet as well, and I also think they can do better. I would say they will be B10 champs right now, but so much can change between now and when the season starts.

I feel really good about this team though. This is the most experienced UI team in a while with a lot of seniors, RS juniors, juniors, and even RS sophs, etc. who have played. They also have some extremely talented freshmen on campus (And coming in next year). With a big year like 9-3 and a bowl win, I think this current class goes to another level (Like top 8-12), and then sets up what could be an even better 2014 class.

brapp33 · Jul 23, 2012, 07:48 AM

I'm sorry but we are going to be better then that. Our Schedule for one thing looks pretty easy except for the 3 big road games.

AHSIllini32 · Jul 23, 2012, 07:54 AM

The media may want to rethink this now with the sanctions.

jimmy1illini · Jul 23, 2012, 08:33 AM

The death of a program? Stopping short of disbanding the program can PSU survive the next decade. What will the BIG do, would they kick them out, sounds harsh, but they fooled and embarressed a lot of people.

Calvin · Jul 23, 2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AHSIllini32

The media may want to rethink this now with the sanctions.

I would think Wiscy fans could book their ticket to the championship game now.

tOSU - not eligible
PSU - not eligible

that leaves, Pudue, Indiana, and us as the only competitors. Wiscy won as many conference games last year as THE ENTIRE ELIGIBLE DIVISION did last year. How bizarre is that?

orangekrush117 · Jul 24, 2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaKid101

There are reasons why things do and don't happen. I've laid out why I think things went different than my predictions.

Of course. And those reasons are often apparent before the season to almost anyone but you.

ThaKid101 · Jul 24, 2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Calvin

I would think Wiscy fans could book their ticket to the championship game now.

tOSU - not eligible
PSU - not eligible

that leaves, Pudue, Indiana, and us as the only competitors. Wiscy won as many conference games last year as THE ENTIRE ELIGIBLE DIVISION did last year. How bizarre is that?

I don't think so. The Illini will have a say in this. I thought before the scandal and definitely think now they can make some noise. They could receive even more of a boost with some possible PSU transfers. If they get enough, they will be very tough.

trevdv · Jul 24, 2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaKid101

I don't think so. The Illini will have a say in this. I thought before the scandal and definitely think now they can make some noise. They could receive even more of a boost with some possible PSU transfers. If they get enough, they will be very tough.

I'm in between you two. I don't think it's going to be a clear run-away in the Badger's favor, but I don't think the Illini will be going to Indy. It may be competitive, but Wiscy will win the division.

Ransom Stoddard · Jul 26, 2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trevdv

I'm in between you two. I don't think it's going to be a clear run-away in the Badger's favor, but I don't think the Illini will be going to Indy. It may be competitive, but Wiscy will win the division.

Agree. I think we're going to see some good things out of our team this year, but I think there is still a significant gap between Wisconsin and UI.

OTOH, I would be overjoyed to be proven wrong.

Calvin · Jul 27, 2012, 06:56 AM

24 Points for Indiana.

Indiana?

I wonder if those voters will take a bet with me....

Jul 22, 2012, 07:57 PM	#40
Indicchief Posts: 1,490	My prediction (not that it matters) 9-3 or better for 2012-13 season. As a 1979 grad, I went through a couple of 0-11 (IIRC) FB seasons - attended every game though (Michigan had a refund policy then = so we returned their coach. ) (Heck, was at the game when we beat MSU for the #1 spot in BB - only to slide from there because we lost our only PG. Well, such is life.) Seems to me we are returning to a cleaner version of the White era in FB. (And, if I may be so presumptuous, I thing we will set new records in BB!! ) In MT I trust. Quality + consistency. Flying Illini!!!!! FB + BB. Last edited by Dan; Jul 23, 2012 at 03:22 AM.

Jul 22, 2012, 02:04 PM	#29
Kramer116 Location: Chicago Posts: 9,673	Who is Wisconsin's QB this season?

Jul 22, 2012, 06:42 PM	#39
illinifan3923 Posts: 102	Another problem with the special teams last year was how many times we didn't even get a punt off. Does that factor into return coverage?

Jul 23, 2012, 07:48 AM	#42
brapp33 Location: Princeton IL Posts: 265	I'm sorry but we are going to be better then that. Our Schedule for one thing looks pretty easy except for the 3 big road games.

Jul 23, 2012, 07:54 AM	#43
AHSIllini32 Posts: 7,060	The media may want to rethink this now with the sanctions.

Jul 23, 2012, 08:33 AM	#44
jimmy1illini Location: central illinois Posts: 212	The death of a program? Stopping short of disbanding the program can PSU survive the next decade. What will the BIG do, would they kick them out, sounds harsh, but they fooled and embarressed a lot of people.

Jul 27, 2012, 06:56 AM	#50
Calvin Posts: 1,633	24 Points for Indiana. Indiana? I wonder if those voters will take a bet with me....