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Old Oct 3, 2012, 11:16 AM   #1
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http://www.suntimes.com/sports/15524...-football.html

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 11:33 AM   #2
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#illini DC Tim Banks: Have to load the box against Wisconsin, which leaves secondary vulnerable. Said they "have to mix it up" on Saturday

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I predict Abbrederis getting about 200 yds in the air on Saturday.

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 11:34 AM   #3
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He also said we have to blitz more like we did last week...great...we are going to get killed.

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#illini DC Tim Banks said team blitzed and was more aggressive last week. "We want to take an aggressive approach." Will continue it
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 11:34 AM   #4
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He also said we have to blitz more like we did last week...great...we are going to get killed.
This could be ugly, load up the box to stop Ball (good luck) and watch them PA over the top while the CBs are alone in coverage and getting burned.

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 11:55 AM   #5
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This site was a lot better to read when people were excited and didnt bash everything the coaches say. Im not saying we are going to win Im just saying maybe we do have a chance lets just wait and see
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:02 PM   #6
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Why the frown face? Everything said is true and it actually paints a much better picture than most would expect coming out of Chicago.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:06 PM   #7
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Why the frown face? Everything said is true and it actually paints a much better picture than most would expect coming out of Chicago.
Agreed it was a much needed boost to my morale. Crossing fingers that this year can be used to get coaches/players on same page and a talent infusion will occur giving this staff more ammo to use.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:08 PM   #8
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This site was a lot better to read when people were excited and didnt bash everything the coaches say. Im not saying we are going to win Im just saying maybe we do have a chance lets just wait and see
If you've watched Wisconsin play, you know that loading up the box doesn't work, they just burn you on play action. You have to be smart and load up the box sometimes, and certainly disguise those blitzes, and sometimes make it look like you are loading up the box so they audible into the PA and then set back on the play.

As has been pointed out many times, Banks hasn't done any of that well, it is a fair criticism.

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:11 PM   #9
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Why the frown face? Everything said is true and it actually paints a much better picture than most would expect coming out of Chicago.
just the whole thing has me feeling uneasy. It's not a frown of sadness...it's more of a "take two steps backward to take 3 steps forward" resigned feeling. That's all/.

I do agree with everything he said...but it's just the feeling that we thought things were going in the right direction and now we're back to a "wait and see" attitude.

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:14 PM   #10
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My sad face would be a result of the fact that we have been patient for 8 years. TB was supposed to be the answer...not just another question.

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:15 PM   #11
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My sad face would be a result of the fact that we have been patient for 8 years. TB was supposed to be the answer...not just another question.

(here it is)
The question can't be answered in 5 games, sorry, the question has been asked for what, something like 15-20 years? Maybe you can just say 80 years.

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:22 PM   #12
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All we can do,as fans, is be patient. I never expected Beckman to turn it around in the first year. Yes i did however expect a little more consistency and discipline on the field. Just more organized and orderly i guess but havent seen that yet either.

We have depth and injury issues all over the place....Its gonna take time
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:24 PM   #13
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All we can do,as fans, is be patient. I never expected Beckman to turn it around in the first year. Yes i did however expect a little more consistency and discipline on the field. Just more organized and orderly i guess but havent seen that yet either.

We have depth and injury issues all over the place....Its gonna take time
Stan you're living in Toledo, what were the expectations of Beckman at Illinois when he left? Are people surprised at how the season has started?
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:25 PM   #14
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All we can do,as fans, is be patient. I never expected Beckman to turn it around in the first year. Yes i did however expect a little more consistency and discipline on the field. Just more organized and orderly i guess but havent seen that yet either.

We have depth and injury issues all over the place....Its gonna take time
I'm encouraged by this....Lemming is no shill for Illinois...keep the faith Illini, the worm will turn!
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:25 PM   #15
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You know what? I am excited to see Banks stray away with the bend don't break approach and start being more aggressive on defense. Thats what VK did with our players and we were good at that so i am all for it.

I like how what we have been trying to do hasent exactly worked so far, and the coaches are going to make adjustments.

Now the question is....will the adjustments work and our team click on the field and perform better
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:36 PM   #16
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You know what? I am excited to see Banks stray away with the bend don't break approach and start being more aggressive on defense. Thats what VK did with our players and we were good at that so i am all for it.

I like how what we have been trying to do hasent exactly worked so far, and the coaches are going to make adjustments.

Now the question is....will the adjustments work and our team click on the field and perform better
Banks basically said they are going to continue to do what they did last week. So I'm not sure what he is "straying" from?

And the only adjustment mentioned is simplifying the playbook. Game plan and scheme is the same.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:57 PM   #17
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Stan you're living in Toledo, what were the expectations of Beckman at Illinois when he left? Are people surprised at how the season has started?
Are you talking about the expectations of Toledo football after Beckman?

or are you talking about what did people here think about Beckman going to Illinois?

Do not know which one you are referring to but I will answer both before i have to get back to work.

The Expectations of Toledo after Beckman was that UT was going to offer Matt Campbell (Becks OC) at Toledo the HC job and they did and he accepted

I personally know Coach Campbell, when my older brother played at BGSU and Matt was the assistant OL coach under Coach Studwara, who is now the OC at LSU, and also he was the OC at Mount Union College when i played their when i was at Dline.

Matt Campbell everyone viewed as a high risk high reward coach due to his young age, youngest in NCAA D1, but also has the background to grow a team and make them a top team.

Backman leaving UT was tough for a lot of Toledo people because him and his staff were doing so well with the football team that they didnt want anything to change.

Beckman ran a tight ship here and his players all seemed to buy in and would run through a brick wall for their coach.

after Beckman Left players were devastated by the news but once Matt Campbell was announced as the HC and NOT Beckman's OC at Illinois (which i was praying for) the players were 100% re-bought into the team and what Coach Campbell was going to do.

Me being from Toledo and have known Coach Campbell for over 8 years now was very very happy and excited for the coach and sent him a text congratulating him and he responded Thanks and Time To Get to Work. So by that response you know what kinda coach he is. Great Coach

I was disappointed that Campbell was however not going with Beckman to my team in Champaign. But knew that Campbell wanted a HC job badly.

I knew if Campbell came to Illinois with Beckman that our offense would be something special. Obviously that did not happen so no hurt feelings about that

Now what everyone was saying about Beckman to Illinois and how he would do was all positive. He showed he could manage a team and do well.

I was hesitant at first, because i knew the offense was so good due to Campbell and 2 other assistants that both coached me at Mount Union did a lot of behind the scenes type things to get the team and players to produce.

Once i heard Beckman did not retain those coaches it made me a little uneasy.

But overall people thought Beckman was going to do good things as far as: Recruiting, Managing a team, Team Discipline, and overall run a tight ship being the HC of a BigTen team.

Obviously with all the new Assistants in place now and such a young team and trying to figure out how to handle Depth issues and Injurys. Beckman and Co. have to right the ship and keep the players bought into the program.

Beckman had experienced this at Toledo when for 2 straight years his best LBers and stud S were out for the whole year, so his defensive ranks were kinda off due to Toledo doesnt have great depth and losing those guys hurt his overall defense

But overall Beckman was a good hire in my opinion and opinions around Toledo with how he went about his stay here and how his team performed.

He has an uphill battle right now but I promise you he is NOT the type of coach that gives up. he won't and he knows he can't.

I have faith he will turn this team around and get the kids to perform better and coaches to do a better job.

Again Just takes time
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 01:00 PM   #18
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Banks basically said they are going to continue to do what they did last week. So I'm not sure what he is "straying" from?

And the only adjustment mentioned is simplifying the playbook. Game plan and scheme is the same.
In football when they say Simplifying doesn't always mean Basic.

It means that whatever our players do well at are going to do that and we will stay away from things they are not.

All coaches when they come into a new team try and push the kids to see how much the kids can do. Obviously some things we have tried to do, Scheme wise, have not worked or our players didn't do what they need to and big plays have been made.

I dont feel like this is a step back but the coaches are aware of whats going on and are doing the right thing to correct it
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 01:02 PM   #19
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Yeah I was more talking about how they viewed him here and what they thought when he left more than what they expected out of Toledo but thanks for the thoughts anyways.

It's nice to hire a coach who was very well thought of at his previous stop unlike the last two coaches we've hired.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 01:20 PM   #20
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Why the frown face? Everything said is true and it actually paints a much better picture than most would expect coming out of Chicago.
Yes, we all thought Beckman's staff could recruit. Let's just hope that with coaching experience (young staff, haven't coached together), more talent, and getting Beckman's own guys there will be more buy in and execution.

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 01:21 PM   #21
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Yes, we all thought Beckman's staff could recruit. Let's just hope that with coaching experience (young staff, haven't coached together), more talent, and getting Beckman's own guys there will be more buy in and execution.
Couldn't agree more
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Yes, we all thought Beckman's staff could recruit. Let's just hope that with coaching experience (young staff, haven't coached together), more talent, and getting Beckman's own guys there will be more buy in and execution.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 01:23 PM   #23
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I beleve.
Not that there's much choice there...

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Old Oct 3, 2012, 01:25 PM   #24
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Not that there's much choice there...
Sure there is. There's been multiple people on here saying they don't think Beckman will get the job done.
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Old Oct 3, 2012, 01:25 PM   #25
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He has an uphill battle right now but I promise you he is NOT the type of coach that gives up. he won't and he knows he can't.

I have faith he will turn this team around and get the kids to perform better and coaches to do a better job.

Again Just takes time
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