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Old Feb 19, 2013, 07:10 AM   #1
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The February 19th college basketball games thread.


B1G Super Tuesday Tonight-

Indiana at Michigan State, 6:00pm CT, ESPN



B1G standings-
_____________________Conf______+/-____Overall
1.__Indiana__________11-2______4______23-3
____Michigan State___11-2______5______22-4
3.__Michigan__________9-4______3______22-4
____Wisconsin_________9-4______2______18-8
5.__Ohio State________8-5______2______18-7
6.__Illinois__________6-7______-1_____19-8
____Minnesota_________6-7______-1_____18-8
____Iowa______________6-7_______0_____17-9
9.__Purdue____________5-8______-1_____12-14
10._Northwestern______4-9______-2_____13-13
11._Nebraska__________3-10_____-4_____12-14
12._Penn State________0-13_____-7______8-17

+/- = +1 for B1G road win, -1 for B1G home loss.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 07:15 AM   #2
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Have to acknowledge, that is likely to be one heck of a game.
Two of my least favorite BBall programs in the B1G these days.
And they're tied for 1st. Wish they could both lose. . .
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 07:19 AM   #3
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Oh, yes, btw for those of you setting a DVR, Florida at Missouri follows the B1G game on ESPN. Has potential
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 08:10 AM   #4
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Oh, yes, btw for those of you setting a DVR, Florida at Missouri follows the B1G game on ESPN. Has potential
Go Izzo... and whoever's playing Mizzou.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 09:40 AM   #5
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Big boy basketball for sure. At the very least it won't be played in the 40s or 50s like some of the other schools in this conference. It's always enjoyable to look forward to real basketball.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 09:43 AM   #6
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Big boy basketball for sure. At the very least it won't be played in the 40s or 50s like some of the other schools in this conference. It's always enjoyable to look forward to real basketball.
Agreed. But it definitely isn't just this conference with low scoring games. I've watched more than a fair share of Big East snoozers this year.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:02 AM   #7
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MSU is a 1.5 pt fav. O/U is 141 which seems high. Selfishly, I want IU to win because of our then owning the tie breaker against anybody in a B1G tourney tie situation.
OTOH, I have too many Loosier friends and relatives that I would have to listen to.

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:48 AM   #8
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The February 19th college basketball games thread.


B1G Super Tuesday Tonight-

Indiana at Michigan State, 6:00pm CT, ESPN



B1G standings-
_____________________Conf______+/-____Overall
1.__Indiana__________11-2______4______23-3
____Michigan State___11-2______5______22-4
3.__Michigan__________9-4______3______22-4
____Wisconsin_________9-4______2______18-8
5.__Ohio State________8-5______2______18-7
6.__Illinois__________6-7______-1_____19-8
____Minnesota_________6-7______-1_____18-8
____Iowa______________6-7_______0_____17-9
9.__Purdue____________5-8______-1_____12-14
10._Northwestern______4-9______-2_____13-13
11._Nebraska__________3-10_____-4_____12-14
12._Penn State________0-13_____-7______8-17

+/- = +1 for B1G road win, -1 for B1G home loss.
Dan, I don't know if it is possible, now that we are down to 5 games can you put each teams remaining games to the side of their overall record?
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Illinois 6-7 -1 19-8 Pennst, @Mich, Neb, @Iowa, @OSU

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:59 AM   #9
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Dan, I don't know if it is possible, now that we are down to 5 games can you put each teams remaining games to the side of their overall record?
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Illinois 6-7 -1 19-8 Pennst, @Mich, Neb, @Iowa, @OSU

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Well, all one needs to do is click on each team and it shows you their schedule. JMO, but I prefer that.

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 11:00 AM   #10
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Well, all one needs to do is click on each team and it shows you their schedule. JMO, but I prefer that.
Yup, it's got dates, times and network all right there.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 11:12 AM   #11
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Well, all one needs to do is click on each team and it shows you their schedule. JMO, but I prefer that.
Thanks for the tip. I did not know where the links went so I did not click on them.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 11:44 AM   #12
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Dan, I don't know if it is possible, now that we are down to 5 games can you put each teams remaining games to the side of their overall record?
e.g.
Illinois 6-7 -1 19-8 Pennst, @Mich, Neb, @Iowa, @OSU

Thanks for all you do for this site.
Something like this-

B1G standings-
_____________________Conf______+/-____Overall________Remaining Games
1.__Indiana__________11-2______4______23-3___________@MSU___@Minn___Iowa____OSU_____@Mich
____Michigan State___11-2______5______22-4___________IU_____@OSU____@Mich___Wisc____NW
3.__Michigan__________9-4______3______22-4___________IL_____@PSU____MSU_____@PU_____IU
____Wisconsin_________9-4______2______18-8___________@NW____Neb_____PU______@MSU____@PSU
5.__Ohio State________8-5______2______18-7___________Minn___MSU_____@NW_____@IU_____IL
6.__Illinois__________6-7______-1_____19-8___________PSU____@Mich___Neb_____@Iowa___@OSU
____Minnesota_________6-7______-1_____18-8___________@OSU___IU______PSU_____@Neb____@PU
____Iowa______________6-7_______0_____17-9___________@Neb___PU______@IU_____IL______Neb
9.__Purdue____________5-8______-1_____12-14__________NW_____@Iowa___@Wisc___Mich____Minn
10._Northwestern______4-9______-2_____13-13__________Wisc___@PU_____OSU_____PSU_____@MSU
11._Nebraska__________3-10_____-4_____12-14__________Iowa___@Wisc___@IL_____Minn____@Iowa
12._Penn State________0-13_____-7______8-17__________@IL____Mich____@Minn___@NW_____Wisc

+/- = +1 for B1G road win, -1 for B1G home loss.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 11:45 AM   #13
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That is pretty awesome, Dan !
Looking at the Iowa line, I just realized how big of a Nebraska fan I am !
Who knew?
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 11:54 AM   #14
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Us and Nebraska are the only teams who finish with 3 out of 4 on the road. Fun times.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 11:59 AM   #15
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Penn State might go 0-18.

That @Northwestern game will be their best chance.

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 12:20 PM   #16
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Penn State might go 0-18.

That @Northwestern game will be their best chance.
Tough call... is it worse to not win a single game, or to be beaten by a team that has you as their only win in the conference?

I'm leaning toward the second option, mostly because I can't stand Northwestern just that much.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 01:19 PM   #17
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Something like this-

B1G standings-
That's excellent. Can you keep these included in updates, down the stretch, and color-code each game by win/loss?

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 01:24 PM   #18
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That's excellent. Can you keep these included in updates, down the stretch, and color-code each game by win/loss?

Getting a little picky are we??
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 01:28 PM   #19
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Wow. Iowa could get to 10 wins in conference fairly easily. That would make me puke.

Minnesota should make it to 9-9. Of course, who knows with them.

OSU should get to 10 or 11 wins.

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 03:46 PM   #20
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Agreed. But it definitely isn't just this conference with low scoring games. I've watched more than a fair share of Big East snoozers this year.
So have I. How bout the ND and Pitt game the other night? Both teams in the forties, terrible offenses.

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 03:56 PM   #21
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Scoring in college basketball is really, really down this year, and I have yet to hear a fantastic reason why. Sure, teams play more zone defense, but does that really account for the biggest point decline since the early 80's? Do 2-3 zones really prevent almost every power six team in the country from consistently hitting three-pointers? Take a look at this stat I found:

Scoring in the NCAA By Decade (via http://triblive.com/sports/college/n...#axzz2LO8hfmXB)
1960---70.0 ppg
1970---77.6 ppg
1980---72.0 ppg
1990---75.3 ppg
2000---70.5 ppg
2010---69.3 ppg
2013---68.1 ppg

College basketball's points per game has dropped in the past three years just as much as it did in the ten year span from 2000 to 2010. :rolleyes:

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Old Feb 19, 2013, 03:57 PM   #22
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Something like this-

B1G standings-
_____________________Conf______+/-____Overall________Remaining Games
1.__Indiana__________11-2______4______23-3___________@MSU___@Minn___Iowa____OSU_____@Mich
____Michigan State___11-2______5______22-4___________IU_____@OSU____@Mich___Wisc____NW
3.__Michigan__________9-4______3______22-4___________IL_____@PSU____MSU_____@PU_____IU
____Wisconsin_________9-4______2______18-8___________@NW____Neb_____PU______@MSU____@PSU
5.__Ohio State________8-5______2______18-7___________Minn___MSU_____@NW_____@IU_____IL
6.__Illinois__________6-7______-1_____19-8___________PSU____@Mich___Neb_____@Iowa___@OSU
____Minnesota_________6-7______-1_____18-8___________@OSU___IU______PSU_____@Neb____@PU
____Iowa______________6-7_______0_____17-9___________@Neb___PU______@IU_____IL______Neb
9.__Purdue____________5-8______-1_____12-14__________NW_____@Iowa___@Wisc___Mich____Minn
10._Northwestern______4-9______-2_____13-13__________Wisc___@PU_____OSU_____PSU_____@MSU
11._Nebraska__________3-10_____-4_____12-14__________Iowa___@Wisc___@IL_____Minn____@Iowa
12._Penn State________0-13_____-7______8-17__________@IL____Mich____@Minn___@NW_____Wisc

+/- = +1 for B1G road win, -1 for B1G home loss.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 03:58 PM   #23
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Scoring in college basketball is really, really down this year, and I have yet to hear a fantastic reason why. Sure, teams play more zone defense, but does that really account for the biggest point decline since the early 80's? Do 2-3 zones really prevent almost every power six team in the country from consistently hitting three-pointers? Take a look at this stat I found:

Scoring in the NCAA By Decade
1960---70.0 ppg
1970---77.6 ppg
1980---72.0 ppg
1990---75.3 ppg
2000---70.5 ppg
2010---69.3 ppg
2013---68.1 ppg

via http://triblive.com/sports/college/n...#axzz2LO8hfmXB

College basketball's points per game has dropped in the past three years just as much as it did in the ten years from 2000 to 2010.
Wow. That is very interesting.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 04:01 PM   #24
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Scoring in college basketball is really, really down this year, and I have yet to hear a fantastic reason why. Sure, teams play more zone defense, but does that really account for the biggest point decline since the early 80's? Do 2-3 zones really prevent almost every power six team in the country from consistently hitting three-pointers? Take a look at this stat I found:

Scoring in the NCAA By Decade (via http://triblive.com/sports/college/n...#axzz2LO8hfmXB)
1960---70.0 ppg
1970---77.6 ppg
1980---72.0 ppg
1990---75.3 ppg
2000---70.5 ppg
2010---69.3 ppg
2013---68.1 ppg

College basketball's points per game has dropped in the past three years just as much as it did in the ten years from 2000 to 2010.
I think some of it had to do with how Georgetown played defense under John Thompson Sr. They would foul on almost every play and the refs would get tired of calling fouls and let them get away with the tough play. As with all things that were successful, other teams followed suit.

Didn't the Big East allow 6 fouls per player for several years?
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 04:02 PM   #25
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Us and Nebraska are the only teams who finish with 3 out of 4 on the road. Fun times.
We've played some of our best games on the road.
Now that we appear to have things going in the right direction, the road games to end the season should be a great way to prepare for the tournament, assuming we take care of business the rest of the way.

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