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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:13 PM   #1
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I was born in Peoria, and moved to Iowa City, Ia. a while ago, but a lot of my friends still tell me that I pronounce words with "an Illinois accent." When they said this the only things that I could think of were the Chicago accent (Chicawgo, etc.) and a Southern Illinois accent (borderline Kentucky-like), and they said that it was neither of these but rather I just pronounce my A's and O's oddly. For example, they say that I say "basketball," "gas" and "John" in a weird way. However, to me it seems like they say "bes-kit-ball," "ges" and "Jawn."

So basically what I'm saying is for those of you not from Peoria/Central Illinois, do people from that region seem to have an accent to you? Also, what other Illinois dialects are you aware of? Because I thought there were only two (Chicago and Southern).
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:58 PM   #2
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Long as people don't use the S in Illinois.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 07:37 PM   #3
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This might be a bit off-topic.
What's the deal with the 'ish' sound that a lot of people put, instead of 'is'.

This is his last game with the Illini.
THISH is his LASHT game with the Illini ??

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Old Apr 24, 2008, 07:49 PM   #4
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This might be a bit off-topic.
What's the deal with the 'ish' sound that a lot of people put, instead of 'is'.

This is his last game with the Illini.
THISH is his LASHT game with the Illini ??
It means they've had too much to drink.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 08:33 PM   #5
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Long as people don't use the S in Illinois.
AGREED!

Another one that bugs me is when people say "Ellinois" ... however a lot of people in Illinois (Southern, mostly) say it that way, too.
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 12:16 AM   #6
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This might be a bit off-topic.
What's the deal with the 'ish' sound that a lot of people put, instead of 'is'.

This is his last game with the Illini.
THISH is his LASHT game with the Illini ??
Sean Connery maybe?

But seriously, U of I 89-05-10, tell those jerks in Iowa that they have the accent, not you. People from central Illinois speak the King's English.
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 08:12 AM   #7
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But seriously, U of I 89-05-10, tell those jerks in Iowa that they have the accent, not you. People from central Illinois speak the King's English.
Yeah, and tell them to wipe their feet when they come in off the fields. And maybe change their underwear once in a while.

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Old Apr 25, 2008, 08:13 AM   #8
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And take a shower, I mean they have indoor plumbing too right?

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Old Apr 25, 2008, 12:17 PM   #9
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This might be a bit off-topic.
What's the deal with the 'ish' sound that a lot of people put, instead of 'is'.

This is his last game with the Illini.
THISH is his LASHT game with the Illini ??
It's called "palettelized speech", like what Sean Connery has.

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Old Apr 25, 2008, 12:34 PM   #10
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One of the fascinating and strange things about Illinois is the issue of dialects. As someone else mentioned, the further south you go, the more folks will talk with a stereotypical "southern" accent. IL is kind of a meeting ground for different dialect zones. See this link for a national map of dialects (with kind of complicated linguistic explanations for the demarcations). You'll see that IL is a border zone--with north and south "midland", and "inland north". Essentially this lumps Chicagoans in with city dwellers from other rust belt cities, and divides the rest of the state with 2 other zones. Champaign is right on the border between north and south midland, which makes a lot of sense to me. In my experience, the central region is really torn about what city to "identify" with in some respects, and this might unconsciously impact language use in some manner. I think some central IL residents identify more with Chicago, some with St. Louie, some with southern IN and KY, some with Indy/Terre Haute, etc. I've observed the "Superfans"-ish Chicago dialect more in Wisconsin than I ever have in IL. WI seems to be split between that and the more stereotypically MN Scandinavian-influenced accent.

I think geography plays a huge role in dialect, but culture does too (in kind of overlooked ways). In my experience, people who were proud of being a "redneck" were much more likely to have a twang. But a lot of central IL natives who don't have a twang sometimes pronounce certain words in a weird way...."wash" becomes "worsh", etc. I've always been a bookworm and into spelling, pronunciation, etc., so I've always been cognizant of word usage. And maybe that's why I have a "non-regional diction"? Hard to say, I guess. It could also have to do with not growing up with any sort of real ethnic identity, also. I can see dialect being very different if you were to live in a Polish section of Chicago versus a small town with a predominantly Norwegian populace in WI (or something else).

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Old Apr 25, 2008, 03:16 PM   #11
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Haha...im from central illinois..(farm town). Everyone says worsh isntead of wash. It is pretty funny! He says stuff like worshington instead of washington. Funny that Banana Shampoo recognized that...but I saw that he is from Urbana and a lot of people from the area seem to say the same thing. One thing I don't get is when people say the H in things like wHip or wHite.



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Old Apr 25, 2008, 04:28 PM   #12
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Haha...im from central illinois..(farm town). Everyone says worsh isntead of wash. It is pretty funny! He says stuff like worshington instead of washington. Funny that Banana Shampoo recognized that...but I saw that he is from Urbana and a lot of people from the area seem to say the same thing. One thing I don't get is when people say the H in things like wHip or wHite.
I can't stand the "H" before the "W" sound thing. It's "WH", people, not "HW"!!!

I'm actually not originally from Urbana, but actually from the Kankakee area and Chicago suburbs. I don't think I have any noticeable accent but my wife, who grew up in Park Ridge (just NW of Chicago) certainly has a noticeable Chicago accent. Her father even more so (he grew up near the Austin neighborhood on the North Side).

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Old Apr 25, 2008, 04:31 PM   #13
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Another decidedly rural thing is the dropping of "to be", as in "This needs washed." instead of "This needs to be washed." I only seem to hear that from the central Illinois locals, especially those who grew up in the smaller farm towns. I never hear it from people who grew up in or around Chicago or even in the other larger cities in Illinois or nearby states.

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Old Apr 25, 2008, 05:34 PM   #14
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i remember freshman year in college my roommate got into an argument about cattycorner and kittycorner. he used the word kitty and i laughed and laughed. i said it was cattycorner and he laughed and laughed. we both thought the other was a huge moron. as it turns out we were both right. i am from central illinois and had never heard of kitty, he from chicago had never heard of catty. rather humorous to me now but that argument was brutal back then.
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 05:39 PM   #15
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woohoo 100!
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 05:59 PM   #16
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Another decidedly rural thing is the dropping of "to be", as in "This needs washed." instead of "This needs to be washed." I only seem to hear that from the central Illinois locals, especially those who grew up in the smaller farm towns. I never hear it from people who grew up in or around Chicago or even in the other larger cities in Illinois or nearby states.
This needs WORSHED! haha
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 08:16 PM   #17
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This needs WORSHED! haha
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 10:36 PM   #18
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My dad says "worsh" whenever referring to wash. It makes me cringe everytime he says it, sounds so hillbilly.
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Old Apr 26, 2008, 10:18 AM   #19
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What about Pop vs Soda?

I think it's interesting how Chicago is pop, but it changes to soda at the Wisconsin border. Also, good chunks of southern Illinois (mostly around St Louis) are soda. As for me, I grew up in Naperville, but my parents were from the east coast so I learned soda from them.

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Old Apr 26, 2008, 11:14 AM   #20
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I say coke for what its worth, sometime soda but never pop.
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Old Apr 26, 2008, 11:19 AM   #21
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i sometimes say sodapop......ahh the best of both worlds
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 09:59 AM   #22
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What is "other" on that map?

Fizz juice? Sody pap? Dr. Thunder?

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Old Apr 28, 2008, 11:33 AM   #23
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What is "other" on that map?

Fizz juice? Sody pap? Dr. Thunder?
Seriously. There are patches on the map where "other" gets 80-100%. Makes you wonder what their sample size was...

In general, though, it's a really cool map.
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 04:57 PM   #24
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Seriously. There are patches on the map where "other" gets 80-100%. Makes you wonder what their sample size was...

In general, though, it's a really cool map.
I have that info!
http://popvssoda.com:2998/stats/ALL.html

Looks like it wasn't a real scientific survey, but pretty neat anyways.
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Old Apr 28, 2008, 05:52 PM   #25
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I have that info!
http://popvssoda.com:2998/stats/ALL.html

Looks like it wasn't a real scientific survey, but pretty neat anyways.
Thank you for supplying the actual data, it just goes to show that samples are important when taking any type of poll. Having people who will write down that they call pop, or soda, or whatever "Di*** Juice" just doesn't help statisticians.

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