Home
Forums
New Posts
Illini Basketball
Illini Football
Sports Talk
Log in
Register
What's new
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
Sports
Sports Talk
2024 Chicago White Sox
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Bucktown" data-source="post: 2018648" data-attributes="member: 30038"><p>Of course, it is not directly across the street like Wrigley, but the stadium is planned of for the center of the site along the river. It is probably a 15 minute walk, but you would enter the general entertainment district much sooner. Wrigley wins on proximity the 78 on variety. </p><p></p><p>It is difficult to argue with a straight face that Wrigley has anywhere close to the highway access as the 78. The bus lines would primarily serve south side and west side residents, just like Wrigley's serve north and west side residents. The 78 wins here.</p><p></p><p>Correct it hasn't begun construction but neither has the stadium. Preliminary engineering is done, and it would be built in the lower levels of a new tower built by Related. It would certainly be completed at the same time as the stadium. When completed the the CTA access would be at least equal to Wrigley.</p><p></p><p>A water taxi will absolutely serve people coming from Michigan Avenue, Union Station and Olgivie. There has never been a point to point destination option for the water taxi and with a summer focused venue like a baseball stadium, it will get used. It is easy to add trips if demand is there. I can absolutely see lifelong Sox fan in my brother-in-law taking the Metra from Hinsdale, then the water taxi with 3 or 4 grandchildren in tow. It could be the fastest way to get from either of those three locations to the new stadium. The 78 wins over Wrigley.</p><p></p><p>Ok, but it doesn't take a lot of imagination to add a stop on a trainline that literally runs through the property. You are correct, it is similar to the Metra Electric service. I see this as the least interesting because redundancy. </p><p></p><p>I don't believe the site escaped development for lack of interest or demand; at least since the 90's when interest in the near south side started picking up with the success of the Central Station development. Its separation from Clark Street by the tracks and the grade differential from Roosevelt didn't help, but the property languished primarily due to legal and ownership issues. CSX railroad then started pitching this property to developers. Infamous Tony Rezko was able to finally get his paws on it. He then flipped to an Iraqi billionaire about the same time he was on his way to jail. Related was only able to secure it in 2016. They put a plan together and got approval at the end of 2018 as Rahm was heading out the door. Then after some early momentum the pandemic put a halt to this and other large projects (especially those with an office component) like Lincoln Yards. </p><p></p><p>Sorry for the detailed retort, but the hot take about the difficulty of integrating the 78 into the transportation network is just not true. I don't want to see subsidies for a stadium, but a new White Sox stadium at the 78 would also be a 'goldmine'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bucktown, post: 2018648, member: 30038"] Of course, it is not directly across the street like Wrigley, but the stadium is planned of for the center of the site along the river. It is probably a 15 minute walk, but you would enter the general entertainment district much sooner. Wrigley wins on proximity the 78 on variety. It is difficult to argue with a straight face that Wrigley has anywhere close to the highway access as the 78. The bus lines would primarily serve south side and west side residents, just like Wrigley's serve north and west side residents. The 78 wins here. Correct it hasn't begun construction but neither has the stadium. Preliminary engineering is done, and it would be built in the lower levels of a new tower built by Related. It would certainly be completed at the same time as the stadium. When completed the the CTA access would be at least equal to Wrigley. A water taxi will absolutely serve people coming from Michigan Avenue, Union Station and Olgivie. There has never been a point to point destination option for the water taxi and with a summer focused venue like a baseball stadium, it will get used. It is easy to add trips if demand is there. I can absolutely see lifelong Sox fan in my brother-in-law taking the Metra from Hinsdale, then the water taxi with 3 or 4 grandchildren in tow. It could be the fastest way to get from either of those three locations to the new stadium. The 78 wins over Wrigley. Ok, but it doesn't take a lot of imagination to add a stop on a trainline that literally runs through the property. You are correct, it is similar to the Metra Electric service. I see this as the least interesting because redundancy. I don't believe the site escaped development for lack of interest or demand; at least since the 90's when interest in the near south side started picking up with the success of the Central Station development. Its separation from Clark Street by the tracks and the grade differential from Roosevelt didn't help, but the property languished primarily due to legal and ownership issues. CSX railroad then started pitching this property to developers. Infamous Tony Rezko was able to finally get his paws on it. He then flipped to an Iraqi billionaire about the same time he was on his way to jail. Related was only able to secure it in 2016. They put a plan together and got approval at the end of 2018 as Rahm was heading out the door. Then after some early momentum the pandemic put a halt to this and other large projects (especially those with an office component) like Lincoln Yards. Sorry for the detailed retort, but the hot take about the difficulty of integrating the 78 into the transportation network is just not true. I don't want to see subsidies for a stadium, but a new White Sox stadium at the 78 would also be a 'goldmine'. [/QUOTE]
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Sports
Sports Talk
2024 Chicago White Sox
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…