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<blockquote data-quote="vikings001" data-source="post: 2072195" data-attributes="member: 749072"><p>Sure I can help talk about it. Atkins is tough because like others mentioned it’s often windy. Greens are tough like most pga level greens will be. But the bunkers are well maintained so they play well and the greens roll true. The par 5s are reachable in 2 but they’re tough to reach in 2 and you can be in trouble off the tee for sure on 6/15. 11 is a par 5 they play as a par 4. It’s so hard to hit the green and keep it on there if there’s wind that’s why it plays so hard, the shot is over water. You can lay up and have an easy 100 yard shot into green but then these guys do that they’re putting for par (that’s what small has them do sometimes). The par 3s are all insanely hard besides 13 really with tough narrow greens and water on 9. The tee boxes were moved forward on 17/9/11 because with the wind it’s too hard to play. 10 is so interesting, it’s easy from white/blue but the orange tees are way further back and to the right, meaning you have a narrow window, if you hit it too far left you’re in bunker/buried around trees hit it right and you’re in water maybe. It plays so hard from Orange. 2 is so hard cause the fairway doglegs left but you can’t hit it that far and the green and hole curves right and so if you aim for fairway your 2nd shot is a 180-200 yard shot over water onto a narrow green with bunkers around it. Can’t go short cause of water and if you go too long it rolls off green, you have to either hit it left off tee into rough and then straight shot into green or draw it right from fairway. Slice the tee shot a little you’re screwed. 3 is a drivable par 4 with a big green/play up area but there is a little water. Easy hole most bogies find the water on the tee shot. 5/7/8/12/14/18 are nothing special normal par 4s some have water greens aren’t too bad but again not easy with wind and it’s hard to play well consistently. Some have water/hazards where you can spiral quick and get into trouble. 16 sucks it’s a devil hole. Small green that slopes back. Bunker in front of green. Little run up to the green on the front right side. There’s a massive ditch in the middle of the hole so you can’t carry the ditch with driver and have to lay up (unless it’s a huge downwind behind you). So you lay up and have a 170 yard shot into a green and unless you hit your tee shot perfectly to the far right side of the fairway avoiding the rough/hazards over there you have to draw it into the fairway. And it’s so hard to keep it on the green. Hardest holes for these guys are going to be 2/10/11/16 and with the wind 9/4. 1/3/6/15/18/12/13 will be the scoring holes mostly. The other ones can be hit or miss depending on weather and pin location. 17 can be scoring or bad depending on pin and weather.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vikings001, post: 2072195, member: 749072"] Sure I can help talk about it. Atkins is tough because like others mentioned it’s often windy. Greens are tough like most pga level greens will be. But the bunkers are well maintained so they play well and the greens roll true. The par 5s are reachable in 2 but they’re tough to reach in 2 and you can be in trouble off the tee for sure on 6/15. 11 is a par 5 they play as a par 4. It’s so hard to hit the green and keep it on there if there’s wind that’s why it plays so hard, the shot is over water. You can lay up and have an easy 100 yard shot into green but then these guys do that they’re putting for par (that’s what small has them do sometimes). The par 3s are all insanely hard besides 13 really with tough narrow greens and water on 9. The tee boxes were moved forward on 17/9/11 because with the wind it’s too hard to play. 10 is so interesting, it’s easy from white/blue but the orange tees are way further back and to the right, meaning you have a narrow window, if you hit it too far left you’re in bunker/buried around trees hit it right and you’re in water maybe. It plays so hard from Orange. 2 is so hard cause the fairway doglegs left but you can’t hit it that far and the green and hole curves right and so if you aim for fairway your 2nd shot is a 180-200 yard shot over water onto a narrow green with bunkers around it. Can’t go short cause of water and if you go too long it rolls off green, you have to either hit it left off tee into rough and then straight shot into green or draw it right from fairway. Slice the tee shot a little you’re screwed. 3 is a drivable par 4 with a big green/play up area but there is a little water. Easy hole most bogies find the water on the tee shot. 5/7/8/12/14/18 are nothing special normal par 4s some have water greens aren’t too bad but again not easy with wind and it’s hard to play well consistently. Some have water/hazards where you can spiral quick and get into trouble. 16 sucks it’s a devil hole. Small green that slopes back. Bunker in front of green. Little run up to the green on the front right side. There’s a massive ditch in the middle of the hole so you can’t carry the ditch with driver and have to lay up (unless it’s a huge downwind behind you). So you lay up and have a 170 yard shot into a green and unless you hit your tee shot perfectly to the far right side of the fairway avoiding the rough/hazards over there you have to draw it into the fairway. And it’s so hard to keep it on the green. Hardest holes for these guys are going to be 2/10/11/16 and with the wind 9/4. 1/3/6/15/18/12/13 will be the scoring holes mostly. The other ones can be hit or miss depending on weather and pin location. 17 can be scoring or bad depending on pin and weather. [/QUOTE]
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