Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April 2018)

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...If Hinson slow playing us. Calloo ready to pop take him...

Honest question, who schedules OV's? Is it the player or the coaching staff in terms of timing? As far as I read, Hinson is scheduled for 4/25 or that time frame. The Calloo OV came out of the blue. Both have other offers per 247 & new coach KD at Ole Miss is after both of them.
 
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Honest question, who schedules OV's? Is it the player or the coaching staff in terms of timing? As far as I read, Hinson is scheduled for 4/25 or that time frame. The Calloo OV came out of the blue. Both have other offers per 247 & new coach KD at Ole Miss is after both of them.

Calloo’s visit to Illinois is unofficial. It was reported as an official but later clarified.
 
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No I genuinely dont have much an opinion on him. His recruitment has been laid out as I have said in previous posts. I'm trying to confirm if he has those offers recently if we are too use those as an evaluation tool of him. That's all. Dont see what's wrong with that.
using other offers as an "evaluation tool" is for losers.
 
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Calloo’s visit to Illinois is unofficial. It was reported as an official but later clarified.

Thanks, must have missed that. Knew the MSU visit was unofficial. Will be curious if they offer him tomorrow/this week.
 
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On recruiting.... Loyola this year is a reminder that the kids have to love to play with one another and play to their strengths. Star ratings are often diminished by teams with intensely good team play. "Really good team play" is where I hope we are within a couple years.

This is so huge. I think it really helps when recruits have a history of playing together in high school and even before. I think that's what made the group of Frank Williams, Sergio McClain, and Marcus Griffin so good. Also, Dee & Deron played together on the US national team and established a rapport, and Dee also had played AAU ball with Augustine.

I think one of the toughest jobs for a college coach is getting a bunch of players who are used to being the star to play together as a team with established roles. Sometimes on a team, a collection of talent can be less than its parts, while in other cases (such as Loyola) a team can be greater than you would think based on the individual players.
 
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Good lord a team with 5 starters that no one on here ever talked about just made the final four. Let the coaches do their job. You can't get everyone unless your are the writing illini correspondent, then your getting everyone you offer.
 
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What is really annoying is their arguments are based on star rankings, and other offers. A total reliance on the evaluations of others. Yet they can predict what the recruits will turn out to be in the next several years. Even using previous recruiting classes where half of them left the program early, and that never made the NCAA tournament, as an argument to how bad the class is. A class put together in March, and April for 5/6 recruits. I guess if star counting, and class rankings are more important than actual basketball accomplishments, that is okay. I find it rather dumb myself.

Exactly, it was some people here that was down playing Trent Frazier after we got Mark Smith. And Mark Smith was a bust basically and Trent is the man.
 
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As opposed to simply praising an offer with the only reason being that Illinois is willing to take them.
I think its clear by now that this board is enamored by stars and beating other programs for recruits. Little value is given by this board for finding a diamond that is a surprise.....mainly because we havent seen alot of development of guys "under radar". That type of trust in the staff will need to be earned.


With BU we are filling needs much better than JG did and I like the potential of this class. I honestly believe most on our commit list will have a much bigger long term impact on our program than Ben simmons and Michael Porter had for their respective schools.

Message for Illini team and recruits: develop individually, listen and trust your staff and gel as a team and the sky is the limit.








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If Bryce Golden was heading to Pitt, am guessing he was wanting to stay closer to home? So Georgetown or even Syracuse may fit that?
 
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If Bryce Golden was heading to Pitt, am guessing he was wanting to stay closer to home? So Georgetown or even Syracuse may fit that?

Three Crystal balls out there for him right now and all three are for Syracuse, so my money is on boeheim.
 
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TownieMatt

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Chicago
Golden looks pretty athletic. Not a ton of tape of him online, but he has a pretty good looking shooting stroke as well (not in this video).

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Strong pursuit of another HS big suggests to me that the fifth year market isn't shaping up to be all that fruitful. In the long run, that might not be such a bad thing. Unless we land one of Cunningham or Caroline (which is looking increasingly unlikely), the needle isn't going to move all that much next year. May be better in the long run to give these prospects a chance to develop next year.
 
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Calloo’s visit to Illinois is unofficial. It was reported as an official but later clarified.

Thanks. That’s a big clarification. I assume if the Hinson visit happens and is an official visit, then the staff prefers Hinson.
 
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illini80

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Bryce Golden

Looks good on the highlight video's, but then who doesn't! Seriously, though he has a nice looking shot and looks like he gets up and down the court.
 
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Strong pursuit of another HS big suggests to me that the fifth year market isn't shaping up to be all that fruitful.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. But hard to see us avoiding a Creaning or two if we go into 2019 with one scholly.

I think "avant garde" would be a kind way to describe the roster management that has been practiced thusfar by Josh Whitman's two major hires.
 
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Who can help me out. Feliz commits to South Florida, under the Antigua brothers, out of high school. Both brothers are fired under a cloud of academic fraud. Feliz ends up at Northwest Florida State which seems to be a junior college. Did the new South Florida coach not want him? Did he no longer want South Florida if there were no Antiguas? Were there no other schools that wanted him and he ended up at a junior college? Did he not qualify for South Florida due to academics and went the j.c. route? Was he part of the academic fraud? How did he end up at Northwest Florida State?
 
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Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. But hard to see us avoiding a Creaning or two if we go into 2019 with one scholly.

I think "avant garde" would be a kind way to describe the roster management that has been practiced thusfar by Josh Whitman's two major hires.

...and minor coaches Fahey and Tamas.
 
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