Illini Basketball 2018-2019

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What I think is clear is GB is better than people gave him credit for as a player and his has good physical attributes. So many were critical of him saying Kane had him beat by a landslide . I feel it's clear GB will play often and its Kane that much more of a project and wont play nearly as much in 2018-19. Kane has ability just has a lot of work to do to develop his skill set.
GB is a much better player and is much better than so many that questioned his skill set and athletic ability when we offered him. GB us strong, has great feet, and great hand eye coordination for a big man He can shoot and pass well. Coach U said he was his biggest fan and GB will become very good player and I am with him. That is why BU is the coach. There is alot more to basketball that a mix tape or a dunk.. GB is going to impact on defense, toughness, and on the boards as much as any freshman this season.
 
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GB is a much better player and is much better than so many that questioned his skill set and athletic ability when we offered him. GB us strong, has great feet, and great hand eye coordination for a big man He can shoot and pass well. Coach U said he was his biggest fan and GB will become very good player and I am with him. That is why BU is the coach. There is alot more to basketball that a mix tape or a dunk.. GB is going to impact on defense, toughness, and on the boards as much as any freshman this season.

I hope all of this is correct but doesn't it seem a bit premature given we've played one exhibition game against Illinois Wesleyan?
 
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skyIdub

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The only chance we have of climbing to the middle of the pack, or better, in the B1G is a healthy Adonis and him being at least an average B1G center. This team has a better makeup than last years team. Once the main six man rotation is set (Trent, Ayo, Feliz, Kip, AJ, Giorgi/Adonis) and they are executing more often than not, this is going to be a tough team to beat every night. Griffin is definitely going to get some match up minutes (zone) and Tevian probably won't be a real option until at least mid-season. If Kane can somehow have a freshman progression like Trent did last year (unlikely but not impossible), suddenly we become a team to reckon with in the B1G Tournament.

I know it's just exhibition, but I hope last night isn't an indication of another year of Good Kip/Bad Kip.
 
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What I think is clear is GB is better than people gave him credit for as a player and his has good physical attributes. So many were critical of him saying Kane had him beat by a landslide . I feel it's clear GB will play often and its Kane that much more of a project and wont play nearly as much in 2018-19. Kane has ability just has a lot of work to do to develop his skill set.
GB is a much better player and is much better than so many that questioned his skill set and athletic ability when we offered him. GB us strong, has great feet, and great hand eye coordination for a big man He can shoot and pass well. Coach U said he was his biggest fan and GB will become very good player and I am with him. That is why BU is the coach. There is alot more to basketball that a mix tape or a dunk.. GB is going to impact on defense, toughness, and on the boards as much as any freshman this season.

I hope you’re right, but we had almost zero inside game against IWU. Let’s at least see what happens against a D1 school. He showed potential, that’s all we can say right now. Let’s hope he continues to grow.
 
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What I think is clear is GB is better than people gave him credit for as a player and his has good physical attributes. So many were critical of him saying Kane had him beat by a landslide . I feel it's clear GB will play often and its Kane that much more of a project and wont play nearly as much in 2018-19. Kane has ability just has a lot of work to do to develop his skill set.
GB is a much better player and is much better than so many that questioned his skill set and athletic ability when we offered him. GB us strong, has great feet, and great hand eye coordination for a big man He can shoot and pass well. Coach U said he was his biggest fan and GB will become very good player and I am with him. That is why BU is the coach. There is alot more to basketball that a mix tape or a dunk.. GB is going to impact on defense, toughness, and on the boards as much as any freshman this season.
Agree with this but we need more than 14 minutes from him. Was hoping fouling wasn't going to be as big of a problem with him but 4 in 14 is not a good start. Will need some minutes from Kane but to me he looked much less lost that Ebo did last year and he was a presence on defense. We still need a healthy Adonis.
 
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The only chance we have of climbing to the middle of the pack, or better, in the B1G is a healthy Adonis and him being at least an average B1G center. This team has a better makeup than last years team. Once the main six man rotation is set (Trent, Ayo, Feliz, Kip, AJ, Giorgi/Adonis) and they are executing more often than not, this is going to be a tough team to beat every night. Griffin is definitely going to get some match up minutes (zone) and Tevian probably won't be a real option until at least mid-season. If Kane can somehow have a freshman progression like Trent did last year (unlikely but not impossible), suddenly we become a team to reckon with in the B1G Tournament.

I know it's just exhibition, but I hope last night isn't an indication of another year of Good Kip/Bad Kip.

Spot on. Not worried about Kipper. He has a good shot. Last night was an anomaly. It happens.
 
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I hope all of this is correct but doesn't it seem a bit premature given we've played one exhibition game against Illinois Wesleyan?
It seems clear to me who is going to be a better player this year between GB and Samba. I also feel you can see by the minutes played last night how BU feels. I also liked GB from the line last night. Last year I think Ebo was a 38% FT shooter and was only a threat to score from a few feet. I may be a bit over enthusiastic but at least I see there is reason to be excited about GB. BU appears to as well.
 
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The only chance we have of climbing to the middle of the pack, or better, in the B1G is a healthy Adonis and him being at least an average B1G center. This team has a better makeup than last years team. Once the main six man rotation is set (Trent, Ayo, Feliz, Kip, AJ, Giorgi/Adonis) and they are executing more often than not, this is going to be a tough team to beat every night. Griffin is definitely going to get some match up minutes (zone) and Tevian probably won't be a real option until at least mid-season. If Kane can somehow have a freshman progression like Trent did last year (unlikely but not impossible), suddenly we become a team to reckon with in the B1G Tournament.

I know it's just exhibition, but I hope last night isn't an indication of another year of Good Kip/Bad Kip.

You might want to pencil in DMW in that rotation
 
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skyIdub

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You might want to pencil in DMW in that rotation

Ha! I literally just realized it and came to correct! Good catch, I knew I was forgetting some initials!

Edit: I can't edit it now....sorry Monte'! seven man rotation!!! 7!
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Haven’t posted in a while but wanted to give some thoughts...

1. GB was tremendous. Knocked down a few threes, guarded relatively well on the perimeter, and seemed very comfortable with the ball breaking the press, along with in the pinch post. My favorite thing I saw from him (besides the scuffle) was when he caught the ball in the pinch post and immediately attacked the basket with his left. Wish i saw more of those quick decisions from Black/Nichols last year.
2. Ayo looked like he was really rushing things last night. Had some jitters, but saw a glimpse of what he can do in the open court, along with his ability to get to the rim. However; he seemed to try and force too much one-on-one in the half court. Once him and the other freshman understand the system more he will excel and look even better as he lets the offense flow more. Not worried about him.
3. Andres doesn’t necessarily have to start, but he needs to see at least 25 minutes a night. Made so many good plays, lead the offense, made great decisions, plays with a bulldog mentality. Reminds me of Abrams but with a higher IQ and patience. Missed his 3’s, but if he can knock down 1 or 2 a game that’ll be gravy.
4. Griffin showed some nice flashes, plays hard, seems to be ahead of Tev right now. I like him at the top of our 3/4 press. If teams start playing 2-3 zone against us, would love to see a lineup with Trent/Feliz, Jordan and Griffin.
5. Tev looked lost defensively and rushed on offense. He has the tools and potential to be an outstanding player. Just needs to let the game come to him. If he doesn’t figure it out, he could be a DJ Williams 2.0, but i’m not going to overreact yet, maybe i’m just suffering from post-Groce PTSD still.
6. Not much to say about Samba, mostly because i don’t remember what he did. Had a nice put back, but that even looked uncomfortable. Kid has potential, he’s long, athletic. Might be a year away from making a big impact, but we have a great big mans coach. If he can make similar strides that Greg did last year, that’d be huge for this team.
7. The score could’ve been 90-60 if we wanted, when our top 7-8 guys were on the court together, we seemed to really clique. Each time Tyler came in the lead started to evaporate, and as soon as Drew came in, they made their run. I’m not too worried about the score of this game solely based on that.
8. Kipper 1/10. not worried. he did some things well on the glass and defensively. He played hard, first game jitters might have got to him. If he makes a few more of those bunnies, we have no issues with his play. He’s going to be a big piece to our success this year.
9. Damonte and AJ did what they had to do. Didn’t force it, played within themselves. Would like to see a little more aggressiveness from both, but if AJ can knock down threes when he’s open, and Damonte continues to be a pest defensively/on the glass, i’m happy. We have 4 pretty solid options offensively ahead of them right now.
10. All in all, there’s clearing things to work on. GB seemed to overhelp the passing lanes a few times. Wouldn’t be upset if BU tells him to sag off a bit more or we might get busted backdoor a lot this year. Liked the 3/4 zone press, hopefully we see more. Allows us to play half court for 4-5 seconds less, which will help with our interior defense. Can’t wait for Evansville, and for Adonis to get back because we need that depth. I-L-L!
 
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It seems clear to me who is going to be a better player this year between GB and Samba. I also feel you can see by the minutes played last night how BU feels. I also liked GB from the line last night. Last year I think Ebo was a 38% FT shooter and was only a threat to score from a few feet. I may be a bit over enthusiastic but at least I see there is reason to be excited about GB. BU appears to as well.
Ref "also feel you can see by the minutes played last night how BU feels. ".....BU feels that Tyler U. deserves/needs more tick than Samba
 
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Ref "also feel you can see by the minutes played last night how BU feels. ".....BU feels that Tyler U. deserves/needs more tick than Samba
Do you seriously think that's the same thing or my point? Only 40 minutes a game at the 5. Much more time than that at the guard positions. Since when is Tyler a 5?
 
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Around 2 minutes you hear BU talking about lift, says it’s unguardable. That’s a counter play to how we fill in behind the 2 man game. It’s call based on where the defense is sending their primary help from. It’s a killer for the defense because it’s a natural help angle for them that is taken advantage of. Run with a shooter in that spot and you usually end up with a wide open kickout.
 
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Around 2 minutes you hear BU talking about lift, says it’s unguardable. That’s a counter play to how we fill in behind the 2 man game. It’s call based on where the defense is sending their primary help from. It’s a killer for the defense because it’s a natural help angle for them that is taken advantage of. Run with a shooter in that spot and you usually end up with a wide open kickout.

Nicely stated.

Wonder if the kids have grasped the finer points and act, instead of re-act.

Just hope they do not dribble, dribble, dribble and then shoot a very long shot. Let us see.
 
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