Joel Goodson
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[replying to one's self, lol]
Just to be clear, the investment encompasses far more than money.
Football Coaching Staff / Coaching Carousel Thread
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[replying to one's self, lol]
Just to be clear, the investment encompasses far more than money.
....is it blood?
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
Plates from the Franklin Mint?
FT35
- Naperville
It's fairly clear that the focus was on recruiting as opposed to filling these positions. This strategy worked as we kept Coleman and Cumby committed while also adding Randolph and Cooper. We've also managed to add three fairly significant transfers.
I'll reserve judgement on the coaching hires until they actually happen. Otherwise, I'm not sure I understand your urgency? These new hires will be important for 2020 recruiting and that doesn't go into full swing until we start having Junior Days in February. As far as the actual coaching from these hires, what can they do until Spring practice starts? Until then, I have no issue with Lovie taking his time with these hires as they are obviously important.
That being said, I believe the postings for a Graduate Assistant and an Assistant Coach closed on the 4th so we could hear something soon. There's also a coaching conference coming up as well. Smith and Patterson weren't hired until January 19th of last year.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Yeah, I'm not impatient for the hires, I am just more perplexed that every other program in the country does their assistant hiring during the head coaching carousel season, which is natural given the shuffling of staffs everywhere, as has Illinois in the past, yet under Whitman in both football and basketball we have not done that and left those positions open for an unusually long amount of time.
Not saying it's wrong (we nailed it late with Rod Smith), but it's strange, and definitely a noticeable pattern at this point. Also a marked change from the head coaching positions where Whitman has acted swiftly and decisively every time.
Just an observation.
FT35
- Naperville
Lovie said at the end of the season to ask him about the Defensive hires in a month (after the December signing period). He's stated since then that they were focused on recruiting and it objectively worked. I mean, really, I think we've seen just about the best scenario play out for us in the past month or so.
The jobs weren't even posted until a couple of weeks ago. I don't think there's any great mystery as to what's going on here as it's pretty similar to what we saw with the Offensive hires last year. Last year I would have argued there was more urgency since we still had a number of spots to fill in the recruiting class.
I'm not sure what Whitman's timeline for hiring head coaches has to do with this? Are you saying that he should be pushing Lovie to shorten his timeline for hiring coaches? Casual fans aren't taking notice of assistant coaching vacancies. No one cares besides diehards like us. Head coaching vacancies are noticed by everyone so they have to be filled relatively quick.
That really confused me
He’s coaching ahead of our more deserving scholarship coaches.
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
Can someone photoshop a clipboard into his game day poster? I would enjoy that immensely.
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This can easily be modified to say that: Many schools have allowed their FB programs to wallow in suckitude for the better part of 'many decades' by routinely firing their coaches every 3-4 years for failure to meet unrealistic expectations.... JHMO
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
So Wisconsin would be better off having let Don Morton coach there forever? Kansas State should have stuck by Stan Parrish for the long haul? What Northwestern needed was to just to keep investing resources and patience into Francis Peay? Washington State was pointed in the right direction with Paul Wulff? Purdue was on the verge of big things with Darrell Hazell? Iowa State needed the fans to really get behind Paul Rhoads?
Oh no, of course not, THOSE are ridiculous examples, THOSE ones were obvious. It's THIS situation that's completely different. Of course, how could I be so silly?
Well, technically you can't say that all those schools wouldn't have been better off keeping those coaches. There's no way to say for sure since they were ultimately all fired.
Note: I'm only saying this to be a sh*t-disturber.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Kliff Kingsbury is apparently about to be hired as the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals weeks after being fired for going a handsome, dashing 35-40 in six seasons at Texas Tech.
The thing that gives me more hope about Illinois than anything are the constant reminders that in the sports business, you're competing against idiots.
The thing that gives me more hope about Illinois than anything are the constant reminders that in the sports business, you're competing against idiots.
Soxfreak64
- Bloomington
Always a toss up between NHL and NFL for the league worst at hiring coaches.
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Well I think we can all agree that we are glad you finally came to your senses.
Don is a friend, keep him out of this.
BananaShampoo
Captain 'Paign
- Phoenix, AZ
As someone who lives in Phoenix, that sucks. As a Bears fan, I have to laugh.
Pretty sure none of the guys you listed coached a team too a Super Bowl. Pretty sure they weren't a DC for a Super Bowl team either.
I think Kingsbury makes sense in the NFL. It might be premature to have him go straight to HC but that is where the league is trending with the young offensive minded HC. The guy can coach offense, and his ability to do that is in no way related to his Texas Tech record, which is heavily tied to the ability to recruit quality players to Lubbock
South Farms
- near Ogden & Rt 83
agree
Kliff being successful in the NFL would not surprise me at all
DaChief4ever
- Urbana
Always enjoyed the Talent VS Coaching discussion. IF we bring in the big name DC, does our tackling and fundamentals suddenly improve tremendously? For argument.....through some twisted reality Lovie is named HeadCoach of Clemson...do they now go 0-14?
Cognitive (availability) bias: it's easier to recall headlines announcing a new hire than it is to recall one of the many outstanding coordinator vacancies. Yes, there's a flurry of activity early in the annual coaching carousel, especially by new head coaches who announce their coordinators upon accepting the position. But the coordinator carousel is still spinning.
https://247sports.com/Article/College-football-coaching-changes-2018--125026551/
I'm willing to wager that Lovie already has someone in mind and we're waiting for the Illinois job posting process to complete so that he can announce it.
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