Football Coaching Staff / Coaching Carousel Thread

[illini0440]

So your opinion is that he is not a quality D1 coach?

Or a qualified D1 coach. Donors will be livid when he is announced.

 

[FT35]

Or a qualified D1 coach. Donors will be livid when he is announced.

They can't be livid if Lovie never announces it.

 

[Joel Goodson]

problem is there isn't a division 1 coach that would hire Miles other than his dad....

and therein lies the problem.

 

[TheGMan]

Or a qualified D1 coach. Donors will be livid when he is announced.

I don't donate, but I, too, will be livid.

 

[Deleted member 654622]

Or a qualified D1 coach. Donors will be livid when he is announced.

I think its probably a good chance he is not qualified. I was just asking as an outsider. Does anyone have any real experience with him in a coaching role?

 

[illini0440]

I think its probably a good chance he is not qualified. I was just asking as an outsider. Does anyone have any real experience with him in a coaching role?

Other than this past season? No. He spent 2 years as a defensive quality control coach with his dad in Tampa.

 

[Subortus]

Are the people on this board suggesting that a young graduate of Lake Forest College who has never worked on a football coaching staff not run by his father is not a good selection as an Assistant Coach in the Big Ten?!?!? (Sarcasm intended.)

 

[Deleted member 649710]

Burning an assistant spot and paying six figures to a guy with no experience who happens to be the coach's son, over hiring an experienced guy who could teach or recruit (or both), should not happen, and Whitman ought to have the good sense to nix the idea.

 

[Pekinfan]

I, like I believe most of you, have no personal experience to judge the coaching or recruiting ability of the young Mr. Smith.
All I know for sure that if this doesn’t work the senior Mr Smith will be out of a job.

 

[logjam]

Other than this past season? No. He spent 2 years as a defensive quality control coach with his dad in Tampa.

I think its probably a good chance he is not qualified. I was just asking as an outsider. Does anyone have any real experience with him in a coaching role?

I'm with you, didn't we just hire someone from SCal who had a similar title? Miles has been here a few years, can't we give him some credit, if this is his craft for striving to succeed, do you think Lovie would let him just play around?

 

[Joel Goodson]

Hiring his son as LB coach, given his scant credentials, takes Lovie down a notch or ten in my estimation. Ridiculous move. Ugh.

 

[Blockhead]

Do people realize how inexperienced almost all Lovie’s new hires are? Patterson, Clark, and Miles all had never been an assistant coach at the college level before Lovie hired them. Hudson has 2 years as a CB coach at a lower level. These are all high risk, high reward choices that Lovie seems to be hoping are homerun recruiters. And they better be because they sure haven’t proven anything in terms of player development or game planning.

 

[MadSeason]

Do people realize how inexperienced almost all Lovie’s new hires are? Patterson, Clark, and Miles all had never been an assistant coach at the college level before Lovie hired them. Hudson has 2 years as a CB coach at a lower level. These are all high risk, high reward choices that Lovie seems to be hoping are homerun recruiters. And they better be because they sure haven’t proven anything in terms of player development or game planning.

Most the inexperience is on D side and that makes this even riskier. Lovie is going to definitely own this season without question now, so I hope he knows what he's doing.

 

[thunderwear]

I'm with you, didn't we just hire someone from SCal who had a similar title? Miles has been here a few years, can't we give him some credit, if this is his craft for striving to succeed, do you think Lovie would let him just play around?

As a donor, I could care less who Lovie hires. I’m assuming that he is hiring the people he believes will help him win. If he doesn’t win, he will lose his job. I imagine that if he thinks Miles has the experience with his system, he believes he can win with him, great! Hire him. And if he doesn’t win. Then it’s time to find someone else. At this point Lovie has recruited the talent to win and if we don’t win with him, the next coach will win with his team. Also, I don’t think one year making 150-200k for Lovies son is worth losing several years making multiple million dollars with his head coaching position. I would give Lovie the benefit of the doubt

 

[Deleted member 649710]

Do people realize how inexperienced almost all Lovie’s new hires are? Patterson, Clark, and Miles all had never been an assistant coach at the college level before Lovie hired them. Hudson has 2 years as a CB coach at a lower level. These are all high risk, high reward choices that Lovie seems to be hoping are homerun recruiters. And they better be because they sure haven’t proven anything in terms of player development or game planning.

Patterson had very deep relationships with some of the top recruits in the classes of 2019 and 2020, and their families. And it has paid off already in recruiting. I don't think Hudson has that. Many on here roundly criticized the Clark hire. The unit he coached took a step back this year. Without his recruiting successes, he would be judged as quite a bust, no? This year's staff has no room for error; if there is not significant improvement on the defensive side of the ball, and I think at least 5 or 6 wins, they're all getting fired (which right there might explain why Lovie seemingly is having to settle for bottom-of-the-list hires).

 

[thunderwear]

Patterson had very deep relationships with some of the top recruits in the classes of 2019 and 2020, and their families. And it has paid off already in recruiting. I don't think Hudson has that. Many on here roundly criticized the Clark hire. The unit he coached took a step back this year. Without his recruiting successes, he would be judged as quite a bust, no? This year's staff has no room for error; if there is not significant improvement on the defensive side of the ball, and I think at least 5 or 6 wins, they're all getting fired (which right there might explain why Lovie seemingly is having to settle for bottom-of-the-list hires).

I agree with everything except the reason his hiring isn’t on fire is because he is looking for people with experience with his system for the dc

 

[DaChief4ever]

I'm sorry to be a contrarian, but this Hudson hire looks like picking low hanging fruit. Where are you guys getting that he is a top notch/great recruiter? Is it because his bio states: "He was an important cog in USC’s recruiting machine both identifying talent and dealing with prospects on campus?" Are those the tasks one would normally single out to identify someone as a great recruiter? Anyone able to factually state his duties while "dealing with prospects on campus?" Who has he brought to FAU that he should garner such accolades? Help me out. I'm not seeing it.

And to those hoping for a great DC hire, please keep in mind that Lovie has stated that his defense is proven and he will be looking for someone with a similar viewpoint. His first DC did not have any prior experience actually coordinating a defense.

Same feeling...gettin a little late to " take a chance, and see how it goes". I joined the other mob with the google search....WHO????

 

[Deleted member 29907]

Do people realize how inexperienced almost all Lovie’s new hires are? Patterson, Clark, and Miles all had never been an assistant coach at the college level before Lovie hired them. Hudson has 2 years as a CB coach at a lower level. These are all high risk, high reward choices that Lovie seems to be hoping are homerun recruiters. And they better be because they sure haven’t proven anything in terms of player development or game planning.

Ryan Cubit is available and he has D1 experience.

 

[logjam]

Patterson had very deep relationships with some of the top recruits in the classes of 2019 and 2020, and their families. And it has paid off already in recruiting. I don't think Hudson has that. Many on here roundly criticized the Clark hire. The unit he coached took a step back this year. Without his recruiting successes, he would be judged as quite a bust, no? This year's staff has no room for error; if there is not significant improvement on the defensive side of the ball, and I think at least 5 or 6 wins, they're all getting fired (which right there might explain why Lovie seemingly is having to settle for bottom-of-the-list hires).

Take a deep breath, too much ventilation this early isn't good, let's wait to see who else we get, and what the spring looks like.

 

[Chukwuwumba]

Take a deep breath, too much ventilation this early isn't good, let's wait to see who else we get, and what the spring looks like.

My gut feeling is the other defensive assistant goes to someone outside the Illinois program, just because that would be the best staff lovie can assemble, and that is the the goal. Miles stays as analyst/control or whatever and coaches lb/nb position.

 

[mhuml32]

I'll wait until everything is formalized but if Lovie hires his kid to become a full-time assistant, it will erode some of the optimism and goodwill for Illinois football moving forward.

 

[WiscIllini]

I'll wait until everything is formalized but if Lovie hires his kid to become a full-time assistant, it will erode some of the optimism and goodwill for Illinois football moving forward.

Honestly for me that one hire would erode most of the optimism for Lovie's success. If he hires his totally unqualified son he either can't find a guy who wants to come on board or he doesn't care enough. He has a ton of money to go out and pay a really great coach, but decides to hire his kid? Would be a terrible look and I hope Whitman puts a stop to it. I just don't believe Lovie is that much of a genius that Miles is some diamond-in-the-rough find as a position coach. No one else would take him.

 

[Blockhead]

With as much smoke as there’s been about Miles, I’d say it’s a good sign that nothing has been announced. May be some second thoughts from those involved.

 

[Blockhead]

He has a ton of money to go out and pay a really great coach, but decides to hire his kid?

With each new hire, I’m really questioning how much money he actually has for his staff. Every hire, outside of Rod Smith (and even he isn’t a super high salary coordinator), has been a very inexperienced coach that required a relatively low salary.

 

[Poe's Law]

Will I be wowed by hiring Miles? No. Will I be that concerned, Not really. A lot of coaches hire their sons. It's not like he's hired him in as DC (at least I hope not). While I'm sure at least some found them a GA job under another coach for them to appear to work their way up, others probably didn't bother and just brought them under their wing.

Frank Beamer and Steve Spurrier hired their sons. So did Kirk Ferentz, Dennis Erickson, Joe Pa (actually lets not do anything he did)... I take it back DO NOT HIRE MILES SMITH!