Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April 2019)

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Yep, that's the name I came up with, but we really only got 1 year where he was better than average in the conference
Mike Davis too. People don't tend to obsess over the 4 as much as other positions because it's the least defined position in modern basketball. They're not just big strong karl malones anymore. What is asked of the 4 changes drastically based on the scheme whereas the general preferred skillsets of 1-3 & 5 are the same in virtually every system. I think that's why a lot of the time your "4" is just your 5th best or 2nd tallest player.
 
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But you need a 4 to be tall and able to guard and rebound. We haven’t had that for a long time either. Black was as close to that as we had but he constantly had to play out of position because we had no five.
 
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I think you answered your own question there. Vesel and Ebo were taken in desperation. They may eventually become good players or not, but BU had no time to really screen them. This year, he has had a chance to really check them out. I trust his judgment.
Sure, my point was more that Giorgi was ALSO taken out of desperation and we probably shouldn't assume that BU saw him as the diamond in the rough that he was. I don't think we can look at his recruitment process and say, well that was different than Vesel and Ebo. More likely, BU saw some degree of potential in all three, but ultimately we took all 3 in desperation and one of them turned out better than we could have dreamed. (this isn't to take all credit from BU, many other coaches were in need of a big this year and didn't offer Giorgi). Kouma seems like the first of the 4 that BU isn't more or less forced into taking, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally, I'd love to see us start red-shirting some post players, and this may be the first good chance we've had in a while.
 
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drsmitty74

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Sure, my point was more that Giorgi was ALSO taken out of desperation and we probably shouldn't assume that BU saw him as the diamond in the rough that he was. I don't think we can look at his recruitment process and say, well that was different than Vesel and Ebo. More likely, BU saw some degree of potential in all three, but ultimately we took all 3 in desperation and one of them turned out better than we could have dreamed. (this isn't to take all credit from BU, many other coaches were in need of a big this year and didn't offer Giorgi). Kouma seems like the first of the 4 that BU isn't more or less forced into taking, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally, I'd love to see us start red-shirting some post players, and this may be the first good chance we've had in a while.
I disagree. OA had seen GB for some time. This wasn't a desperation move. This was a move we see teams like WI and others make, where we sit back and think, we have to face this guy for 3 more years?......why can't we recruit players like that.............under the radar, high IQ ballplayers.
 
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Vesel and Ebo would have been contributors by the time they were juniors or seniors. They both needed to start as redshirts. Samba should have redshirted this season. I hope our newest recruit redshirts. I have a feeling though that the only redshirts that we will see in the future are medical. The graduate transfer rule has changed things.
 
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IlliniFanAtEIU1953

Rantoul, IL
Well, they did name an island after him.

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Adam Miller told Corey Evans of Rivals that he is still open with the process, but that 4 stand out--Illinois, UCLA, Louisville and ASU.

Rumor is that Hurley is in the running to replace Mullin at St Johns. If he goes that might knock ASU out of the running (or maybe SJU jumps in).
 
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Antigua is not exactly some obscure place. It's a popular vacation destination. It's not like we have a coach named Rarotonga and someone made a Pacific island joke.

I almost went to Rarotonga this winter but my wife and I couldn't align our time off quite enough to get there and back - project deadlines robbed us. Sad!
 
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Sure, my point was more that Giorgi was ALSO taken out of desperation and we probably shouldn't assume that BU saw him as the diamond in the rough that he was. I don't think we can look at his recruitment process and say, well that was different than Vesel and Ebo. More likely, BU saw some degree of potential in all three, but ultimately we took all 3 in desperation and one of them turned out better than we could have dreamed. (this isn't to take all credit from BU, many other coaches were in need of a big this year and didn't offer Giorgi). Kouma seems like the first of the 4 that BU isn't more or less forced into taking, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Personally, I'd love to see us start red-shirting some post players, and this may be the first good chance we've had in a while.

To summarize, you are bald @ss speculating and not giving the staff credit for a great get. Heck yes you can say this recruitment was different from Ebo and Mattic, because the staff wasn't brand new at Illinois in Giorgi's case, like they were in the others. They worked the NY area hard and came up with Giorgi and Griff, they didn't just come on the job and make a last second move with either of them.
 
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UncleBob

San Clemente, CA
Rumor is that Hurley is in the running to replace Mullin at St Johns. If he goes that might knock ASU out of the running (or maybe SJU jumps in).

Even more curious is that UCLA job has been open for several weeks and they finally settled on Cronin from Cincy yesterday. It would be interesting to know who has been leading that recruitment, UCLA or Addidas.
 
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