Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Not even having a player signed as a UDFA can't help with recruiting, especially since southern Illinois, Illinois State and Western Illinois has multiple people signed
this speaks volumes about the quality of our coaching staff and their reputation in the nfl
 
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this speaks volumes about the quality of our coaching staff and their reputation in the nfl
Right, which is why every draft room had walls filled with "But who was his coach?" boards, because evaluating the talent on film is way overrated. /s
 
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1.45 at that level is the difference between 275 and 335. And that is exactly my point. Being the 275th best player vs the 335th best player is being equated to 500 vs 750. What do those differences mean? Absolutely nothing. I did quite a bit of analysis with the nfl and drafting. and what the data shows is way different than what it means on a case by case basis. Or what it means beyond high and Low levels or large differentials.

Having data is better than not having data. I agree.
I like charts, so I’m happy you are producing them. I use them just like everyone else. There’s just too much inconsequential information in middle tier recruits (few eyeballs and greater variance in scores, amount of tape, etc.).

Also another question is how do you use the score. Is a .9 Difference much different? Difference score analysis, which is not even being used, is plagued with errors when used to compare numbers as people. Is a 6 point difference between a player that is 88 vs 82 the same amount of difference as 88 be 94. you can’t say. The data produced through assessment isn’t linear.

The data on the high end is much more accurate than the middle rated players because of film, number of eyeballs, etc. we also know a 90 is better than an 80. Is an 85 much different than an 86? Not known. Is an 88 linebacker different than a 90 receiver? The positional ranking would say the linebacker is way more important. But statistical analysis would indicate stacking a team if receivers would be better.

now, I’m Not saying data is worthless far from it. I make a lot of money because of data. I’m just saying the difference between teams with less than a point difference in overall score doesn’t really mean anything when it comes to talent. But when it comes to coaching, starting lineup scores, scores of the weakest link on the field, then they start to have more relevance
All good questions and points. I think one thing the charts do is expose the fallacy of just comparing the averages. When you see the chart of Illinois' vs Minnesota's recruits, and Minnesota has recruits ranked usually in multiples of hundreds of places higher than each of Illinois' recruits, you can't help but see that they clearly out-recruited Illinois. I made some changes compared to last year which I think will be a big improvement. I just ask for patience and would love to hear your feedback after I post them.
 
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All good questions and points. I think one thing the charts do is expose the fallacy of just comparing the averages. When you see the chart of Illinois' vs Minnesota's recruits, and Minnesota has recruits ranked usually in multiples of hundreds of places higher than each of Illinois' recruits, you can't help but see that they clearly out-recruited Illinois. I made some changes compared to last year which I think will be a big improvement. I just ask for patience and would love to hear your feedback after I post them.

I look forward to the post!
 
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Any idea who the football comittment might be from? Corey Patterson's just tweeted "oh yea we lit" followed by rod Smith's ric flair tweet and followed by jeremy Werner tweeting rod Smith's tweet and saying "possibly"?
Wonder if were getting a big time or this time ..
 
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Any idea who the football comittment might be from? Corey Patterson's just tweeted "oh yea we lit" followed by rod Smith's ric flair tweet and followed by jeremy Werner tweeting rod Smith's tweet and saying "possibly"?
Wonder if were getting a big time or this time ..

Without giving it away, look for the person that is committing today.
 
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All good questions and points. I think one thing the charts do is expose the fallacy of just comparing the averages. When you see the chart of Illinois' vs Minnesota's recruits, and Minnesota has recruits ranked usually in multiples of hundreds of places higher than each of Illinois' recruits, you can't help but see that they clearly out-recruited Illinois. I made some changes compared to last year which I think will be a big improvement. I just ask for patience and would love to hear your feedback after I post them.
The charts from last year comparing the recruiting class using the bar graphs were very informative. Yes the charts are based off recruiting rankings which are not always accurate. But it was a slap in the nuts and needs to improve
 
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Two places, twitter and a targets list, like 247.

I was going to guess Barlev, Kreutz or Timmons but I'm not seeing that any of them are committing today?

Rod Smith liked a tweet from Peoria High WR Dionysius Hogan this morning but I don't think he has an offer yet.

That's enough internet sleuthing for me today.
 
#750      
It may not be pretty, but by supplementing the smaller class size with 4 star transfers trapped down the depth chart I am fine with that. If we can somehow find the Corbins, Kramers, Milan, and Hansen’s every class then fill out position of needs with transfers from big schools like this then that is OK. You’re never going to compete for a BIG Championship like that, but if Lovie is able to real in 5-6 of these guys to takeover for all the seniors leaving next season then we should be able to make a bowl year in and year out (albeit not a good one).
 
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