You're dead right about the thought process. But it was a terrible thought process. That's exactly what you DON'T do.
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You're dead right about the thought process. But it was a terrible thought process. That's exactly what you DON'T do.
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
1. Jerrance
2. Robert Smith
3. Bill Self w Brad Stevens asst, Shaka DOBO
4. Obamas brother in law
5. Brandon Miller
6. Roger Powell w Dee and Deon
7. Weber
8. Pearl
9. Keatts
10. Travis or Dana or Dustin Ford
11. Chris Collins or Phil Jackson
12. Hoiberg
13. Lon Kruger
14. Cuonzo Martin
2. Robert Smith
3. Bill Self w Brad Stevens asst, Shaka DOBO
4. Obamas brother in law
5. Brandon Miller
6. Roger Powell w Dee and Deon
7. Weber
8. Pearl
9. Keatts
10. Travis or Dana or Dustin Ford
11. Chris Collins or Phil Jackson
12. Hoiberg
13. Lon Kruger
14. Cuonzo Martin
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Cronin??? Mike Thomas hired him at Cincinnati!!! Nooooooooooo. Lol.
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TownieMatt
CU Expat
- Chicago
Please not this again.
Rob Smith is a really good high school coach, but hiring him straight from high school to a B1G head job would be ludicrous. Sure we might get more Simeon players, but he's never managed a college program at any level. Not to mention that no one player at Simeon or even in all of Chicago at the moment is worth lining up a coach to get. You mention Kezo, who was once considered a top prospect, but really isn't anymore after a bad sophomore season and mediocre AAU circuit.
Were you around this board during the last search when people thought that was a reasonable person to hire :tsk:.
Speaking of the last search, I think that thread was the record for most posts/views for this board. I wonder if we can beat it this time around. We're off to a good start, or perhaps a bad start depending on your perspective.
Ah. Don't forget Chris Collins and the outrage that suggestion caused.
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal
You forgot Rush Street Reggie.
illynifan34
That's a winner!!
- OH
I want to believe. It's just so hard right now.
So, Archie Miller's (very comely 
) wife is a fellow NC State alum. And Archie has more of a southern affect than you'd think given his Pennsylvania roots.
Root like hell for the Pack folks, if Mark Gottfried gets fired (and he should), Archie's taking that job over ours.
) wife is a fellow NC State alum. And Archie has more of a southern affect than you'd think given his Pennsylvania roots.Root like hell for the Pack folks, if Mark Gottfried gets fired (and he should), Archie's taking that job over ours.
LOL. Weber hates Self so much.
Rothstein: 10 coaches on the rise in college basketball in 2016-17
http://www.todaysu.com/rothstein-files/rothstein-10-coaches-rise-college-basketball-2016-17/
10 coaches on the rise: Jerod Haase has UAB on right track
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...n-the-rise-jerod-haase-has-uab-on-right-track
http://www.todaysu.com/rothstein-files/rothstein-10-coaches-rise-college-basketball-2016-17/
10 coaches on the rise: Jerod Haase has UAB on right track
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...n-the-rise-jerod-haase-has-uab-on-right-track
Top 40 college basketball coaches, ranked
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/col...tom-izzo-john-calipari-roy-williams-bill-self
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/col...tom-izzo-john-calipari-roy-williams-bill-self
Lol he so does. I watch the Kansas v. Kansas St games for the after game handshakes alone.
Another name to have in the ether: Steve Forbes at East Tennessee State.
ETSU Before Forbes (KenPom):
2013: 319
2014: 243
2015: 217
ETSU Under Forbes:
2016: 153
2017: 61
Plus he was a very successful JUCO head coach and has a background as an assistant and multiple other winning power conference programs.
Sounds great, right? What's the catch?
One of said successful assistant tenures was five years with Bruce Pearl at Tennessee.
I know, I'm out too. Just passing along the information.
ETSU Before Forbes (KenPom):
2013: 319
2014: 243
2015: 217
ETSU Under Forbes:
2016: 153
2017: 61
Plus he was a very successful JUCO head coach and has a background as an assistant and multiple other winning power conference programs.
Sounds great, right? What's the catch?
One of said successful assistant tenures was five years with Bruce Pearl at Tennessee.
I know, I'm out too. Just passing along the information.
BananaShampoo
Captain 'Paign
- Phoenix, AZ
A couple of those are actual legit options (Keatts, Martin) and thus don't belong on that list of "coaches whom people will clamor for but are either whoafully underqualified for the job or there's no way they're coming here". While you're at it, might as well add "the ghost of John Wooden" and Bob Knight to the list. :thumb:
illinitrav
- NW Suburbs
Keatts, McCall, and Wade are the only three that generate any interest for me.
I'm telling you guys, Musselman is the real thing.
Not quite sure what to think on King Rice, but that's another person to at least consider.
He's certainly worth a call. I think there are a number of good to great candidates out there and he'd be on the list. He has turned around Nevada pretty quickly.
And for those that prefer singular achievements, Nevada had a huge come back recently. Down ~ 25 with 11 minutes left and down ~ 11 with 1 minute left if I remember correctly. The team came back and won in overtime. On the road. I know it's not the Big Ten, but New Mexico is a tough venue. I turned the game off last night down 10 with about 36 minutes left.
I like him but I think the order goes like this...
1. Bennett
2. Martin
3. Keats
I think Musselman is in this group. Bennett is in a separate group that is completely beyond my imagination of what we can get. I'd put Musselman ahead of Keats I think. NBA experience could be a big boost for this program.
I'm not excited for Cuonzo Martin at all. I just don't think he can turn Illinois into a NC contender, which is obviously the goal (and attainable, given some years granted). In 5 minutes of research Keatts peaks my interest. Has a "Self at Oral Roberts" type vibe, just wish he was onto that Tulsa step instead of still at the Oral Roberts/UNC-W step.
But honestly, just throw money at someone and get this thing turned around quick. Going to games at a half full SFC is depressing, especially since i think they did a good job with the renovations. Throw $4MM at somebody on Bennetts level. Screw it, it's not my money (I'm not donating until my loans are paid off, quit calling me Alumni Association).
But honestly, just throw money at someone and get this thing turned around quick. Going to games at a half full SFC is depressing, especially since i think they did a good job with the renovations. Throw $4MM at somebody on Bennetts level. Screw it, it's not my money (I'm not donating until my loans are paid off, quit calling me Alumni Association).
So I think there's two lists forming, right? There's the "hey, maybe they'd be interested!" list, and then there's the "up-and-comers who we know we can probably get" list.
The first list is Cuonzo, Buzz Williams, Marshall, Archie, Hoiberg, Greg McDermott, Chris Mack and/or Mick Cronin, and you can get as pie-in-the-sky as you want from there, Billy Donovan, Brad Stevens, Tony Bennett at Virginia, Tony Bennett the singer, the ghost of Red Auerbach, Lord Van Gundy, whatever. It's not a ranking so much as a wish list.
It's the second list where you have to make the tougher calls. Here's where I'm at at the moment:
1. Kevin Keatts
2. Eric Musselman
3. Will Wade
4. Kermit Davis
5. Dan Muller
6. Keith Dambrot
7. King Rice
8. Matt McCall
I don't really know what to do with Ben Jacobson right now. That would be a tough, tough sell.
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