By the way, if we want to recruit the absolute heck out of Florida and can live with a guy who stinks as a coach (or maybe we can put a staff around him that mitigates that) Georgia OC James Coley would be your man.
I'm actually a little surprised the obsessive recruitniks around here haven't brought that name up.
As a playcaller though? Yikes.
I, personally, lean more towards people who have proven recruiting track records that show a clear ability to attract top talent to places that aren’t high end destinations (Like, you know, Illinois). People I’m close with love the guy but I need to see him perform for programs that aren’t Georgia, Miami or Florida State before he makes my list but that’s just me.
And ya, you still have to be able to coach on Saturday’s. Landing top talent is fruitless if you can’t develop that talent.
Are you saying Groce did or did not fit that model? The big red flag with him for me was his struggles in the MAC regular season. Something just didn’t add up.
It it just doesn't make a ton of intuitive sense to me that the first thing you're looking for in a football coach isn't whether they can coach football.
I honestly think the star recruiter thing comes from the new age of coaches like Fleck.
I agree, this isn't a video game where you have to subtract points from coaching to increase recruiting or vice versa. There are probably more coaches that are good at both (or neither) than there are one dimensional as we tend to categorize them.I think the colloquial message board paradigm of recruiting and coaching being the two great totally independent variables of a coach is largely wrong, and that the two skills have more in common than people think.
I agree, this isn't a video game where you have to subtract points from coaching to increase recruiting or vice versa. There are probably more coaches that are good at both (or neither) than there are one dimensional as we tend to categorize them.
How could we have that decision half way through the season?