Chicago Cubs 2020 Season

Brewers don't cheat by stealing signs, they use the old metrodome trick of blasting the A/C out during the Brewer's at bats and in during the road teams at bats 🌬
There's more smoke around the Brewers than that. There was a story that came out right around when the Astros story broke with an anonymous survey among players that cited the Brewers along with the Astros and Rangers as the team most players suspected of sign stealing. There was also a story that after getting shelled in the first series in Milwaukee (25 earned runs in 25 innings), the Cubs switched to giving multiple signs to pitchers even when there was no runner on base and they gave up significantly fewer runs in Milwaukee going forward.

I fully admit that my irrational hatred of the Brewers that we established upthread could be clouding my perception here.
 
I believe the Cubs and Bryant have a rift with the way holding him out cost a year of larger salary and they didn't negotiate a contract so the only hold up is how long the team he moves on to is in control of Bryant and what he is worth in trade. It seems there is no way Bryant will be around longer than 2 years max and Cubs are trying to maximize the return. Is this fair assesment? He gone?
 
I believe the Cubs and Bryant have a rift with the way holding him out cost a year of larger salary and they didn't negotiate a contract so the only hold up is how long the team he moves on to is in control of Bryant and what he is worth in trade. It seems there is no way Bryant will be around longer than 2 years max and Cubs are trying to maximize the return. Is this fair assesment? He gone?
Bryant says he wants to be a Cub for life.

The Cubs are in a self-created bind because they declared that they won’t go over the luxury tax, which means that they can’t add salary this year and probably have to shed salary next year.

Of the Cubs players that make a significant amount of money, Bryant is easily the most desirable to other teams. However, as it stands right now, it doesn’t sound like anyone is anywhere close to meeting the Cubs’ high asking price for Bryant and the Cubs don’t have any particular reason to reduce the asking price.

Which means Bryant is probably going to start the season with the Cubs and assuming they stay in the divisional race - and there’s no reason why they shouldn’t - stay a Cub through the end of the season.
 
Bryant says he wants to be a Cub for life.
Bill Self said he was happy to be at Illinois like a day before he took the KU job. There are way too many instances of players/coaches/who ever saying they want to stay where they are.

Now, you can probably point to money being the deciding factor in like 95% of those people leaving, but the fact is Bryant saying that saves face and that's about it.

I'd wager a lot of money he wont be a Cub when the 2022 season starts, one way or another.
 
Bill Self said he was happy to be at Illinois like a day before he took the KU job. There are way too many instances of players/coaches/who ever saying they want to stay where they are.

Now, you can probably point to money being the deciding factor in like 95% of those people leaving, but the fact is Bryant saying that saves face and that's about it.

I'd wager a lot of money he wont be a Cub when the 2022 season starts, one way or another.
There is very little evidence that Kris Bryant wants to leave the Cubs. There’s the grievance that the MLBPA filed on his behalf 5 years ago and that’s it. The only public statement he’s made is that he wants to be a Cub. Where he plays after becoming a free agent will come down to money, but there’s no evidence that if the Cubs field a competitive offer he wouldn’t come back to the Cubs.

I think the issues are all on the Cubs side of the equation and I think they’d choose to keep him if they thought they could afford to keep him. Right now it seems like they’ve made the (utterly, completely, stupidly ludicrous) decision that they can’t afford to keep him.

So right now it looks like they’re going to try to trade him. Trying to find recent trades of comparable players with 2 years left of team control, the best comp I could find was Marcell Ozuna. The Cards gave up two top 100 prospects and a couple more legitimate prospects to get Ozuna. The Cubs will be looking for something significantly more than that.
 
I should add, look at the rumored asking price the Rockies are looking for from Arenado in the Cardinals rumors. The Cubs should get something similar for Bryant. Arenado is probably the better player (especially defensively), but there’s some uncertainty with the Coors factor. Arenado is the far more expensive player for the first two years. And there’s the added risk if he gets hurt or massively underperforms, that he doesn’t opt out from his contract and you’re saddled with 4 years of $30MM+ for an aging, unproductive player.

In other words, Bryant is a much less risky trade target even if he has a slightly lower ceiling.

The point is there’s a fairly limited number of teams that a) have the prospects to meet the Cubs asking price, b) are in a win-now mode where they’d trade prospects for two years of a player, c) have a place to play Bryant, and d) aren’t in the Cubs’ division.

Three of Dodgers, Nats, Braves and Yankees. assuming one of these teams will eliminate themselves by signing Josh Donaldson, and that’s about it unless the Rays wanted to do something completely un-Rays-like.
 
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