Army-Navy game lines: Navy Midshipmen +7 -- Over/Under: 43
I would take Army -7 all day here. Navy has struggled this season mightily.
I would take Army -7 all day here. Navy has struggled this season mightily.
This is a perfect point about ND. They don't play a cupcake schedule. They play Michigan, Stanford, USC every year and people are complaining? The SEC plays 2, that is right 2 FCS opponents every year. That equates to 3 bye weeks in their full regular season schedule. It is crap and I wonder when the SEC will start being penalized for it
I think Iowa and Wisconsin have a great shot to win. NW game is a tossup, though I do think the PU and MSU games could get out of hand quickly.So I see 3 wins, Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State. I don't see a good Bowl Season for the B1G
SOS is based off people's opinions about how strong a team is. ND played FSU, Mich, USC, and Stanford. It is not NDs fault that USC and FSU are having a down year. Show me another team with the balls to make that schedule?Notre Dame's SOS this year is not great by any means (#61), which is below all of the B1G bowl teams except Iowa (#67) and much closer to UCF (#83) than Alabama (#17). The remaining playoff teams have SOS below Notre Dame, but at least they each won a conference championship.
This is where I think Iowa and Wisconsin look good playing in the B1G, but vs other decent P5 teams, I think they are going to get rolled this year. I really hope I am wrong.I think Iowa and Wisconsin have a great shot to win. NW game is a tossup, though I do think the PU and MSU games could get out of hand quickly.
Alabama at 17 is a straight joke! They played LSU, and Texas AM in the regular season. Every other team, including their cupcakes, which allow them to get healthy, are having bad years. Anyone that tells me Alabama's schedule was harder than NDs is crazy.
Why? I stated you’d force them to by making a conference championship part of the criteria but I guess they could skip the chance and keep cashing checks. Not sure others should schedule them at this point. I suppose it’s the only way to get a part of their cash cow.
You conveniently left off Missouri and Mississippi State (both Top 25 teams) and the fact that they beat Georgia in the championship game. I don't like Alabama anymore than the next guy, but their schedule was easily harder than ND.
8 teams. 5 conference champs and 3 at-large.
There would be no reason to ever complain again.
We have hours on content dedicated to the teams who were spurned from a 68-team tournament immediately after the March Madness bracket is revealed. Plenty of FCS, DII, and DIII teams complain about their football teams not making 16/24 team tournaments. No amount of teams being involved in a playoff is going to quelch the angst of sports fans.
8 teams. 5 conference champs and 3 at-large.
There would be no reason to ever complain again.
I don't like the idea of giving auto bids to conference champs. Sure this year it'd work out great, but what if Northwestern or Pitt had pulled off an upset on Saturday?
Notre Dame's SOS this year is not great by any means (#61), which is below all of the B1G bowl teams except Iowa (#67) and much closer to UCF (#83) than Alabama (#17). The remaining playoff teams have SOS below Notre Dame, but at least they each won a conference championship.
You're right. ND might not be one of the best 4 teams, but they have the resume of one. I would tab Georgia over them (and honestly OU and OSU). The playoff committee is better as the BCS system was, but not much. There's no such thing as a perfect system. Playing one-off games has been shown multiple times to be chaotic and not representative of who's actually the best team in the country, but example for this year, there's three (4, but thats a whole other argument) undefeated teams, sure Bama has looked the most dominant (and has the stats to mostly back that up), but its not clemson or ND's fault necessarily.Throwing out the SOS is misleading. Every year the CFPC has completely ignored the SOS (usually for the benefit of the teams they favour). The year OSU went to the CF playoffs without a conference championship, they had a middle of the road SOS.
Instead of a pure SOS, they look wins vs bowl teams as their version of SOS. ND had 8 wins against bowl bound teams; 3 in the top 25 (not to mention they beat two division winners/conference runner ups) They also only played 1 'mid-major' team this year (Ball State).
And, at the end of the day, an undefeated season is a good substitute for a conference championship.
I'm sorry but if you think Missouri and Mississippi State are "tough" teams, then much watch a lot of ESPN. Georgia? They didn't get killed by Alabama, great. They must be a really good team. Except they got curb stomped by LSU. And struggled every other game.You conveniently left off Missouri and Mississippi State (both Top 25 teams) and the fact that they beat Georgia in the championship game. I don't like Alabama anymore than the next guy, but their schedule was easily harder than ND.
We have hours on content dedicated to the teams who were spurned from a 68-team tournament immediately after the March Madness bracket is revealed. Plenty of FCS, DII, and DIII teams complain about their football teams not making 16/24 team tournaments. No amount of teams being involved in a playoff is going to quelch the angst of sports fans.
This is just wrong. How does it "work"? OSU and OU are both one loss teams, the only difference is really OSU has a "bad" loss on their resume. They also have a much better win than OU does (scUM). Sure this year had 3 undefeated P5 teams, but thats happened exactly once since the CFP inception, so your reasoning doesn't work unless there happens to be exactly 3 undefeated teams. In theory, there could be 6 (ND and the 5 conference champs), what then? And you even bring up the possibility of putting in a G5 undefeated... "if deserving" is so vague and the CFP committee is already mired in vagueness.If you think of the whole season as a playoff, four teams works very well. Take the undefeated P5 teams and fill in with the next best one-loss team(s), or an undefeated non-P5 team if you think it is deserving. The teams that are out had their chance during the season and really can't be complaining. And for the most part, they usually don't.
It works because the regular season matters. It works because the goal is to crown the best team, not find with exact certainty the top four. There is always going to be some doubt, or vagueness as you put it, for the last team in/first team out, whether the cutoff is at 4, 8, 16, 32, etc.This is just wrong. How does it "work"? OSU and OU are both one loss teams, the only difference is really OSU has a "bad" loss on their resume. They also have a much better win than OU does (scUM).
I'm not following why you think it only works with three undefeated teams. A four team playoff can work with no undefeated teams. And how many time since the number of games expanded to 12 (or even in the last 50 years?) were there more than 4 unbeaten teams at the end of the season?Sure this year had 3 undefeated P5 teams, but thats happened exactly once since the CFP inception, so your reasoning doesn't work unless there happens to be exactly 3 undefeated teams. In theory, there could be 6 (ND and the 5 conference champs), what then? And you even bring up the possibility of putting in a G5 undefeated... "if deserving" is so vague and the CFP committee is already mired in vagueness.
I agree with this. But if you think this, then why have a playoff? We should go back to the polls.I think the committee got it right from a resume standpoint, but I also think OSU and Georgia have almost equal chances of beating Clemson, Bama, and/or ND as OU does. If you're looking to crown the "best" team, record and final score does not always indicate that, nor does SOS (I think UCF would've had a shot with their QB).
I go to ND now. No way we join a conference. We tried that already and the B1G declined us. I believe Illinois voted against it haha.
They play USC, Michigan, and Stanford every year.
Wisconsin can beat Miami - they are really not that good this year. Their D is good, offense - eck.So I see 3 wins, Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State. I don't see a good Bowl Season for the B1G
I agree that Miami is not very good, but Wisconsin.....Wisconsin can beat Miami - they are really not that good this year. Their D is good, offense - eck.