Fighting Illini Basketball Scholarship Grid 2017-2018

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#26
The first thing I did was check to make sure you remembered "Mildcats."

Was not disappointed. Top-notch work, as usual. :D
 
#32
rbachhuber, thanks for taking on the scholarship grid --really enjoy having it for reference, especially keeping track of offers and where prospects are going.

As for the walk-on transfer question, I think the fear that underlies the rule, is that treating one class of athletes one way (walk-ons), and another class another way (scholarship athletes) could be problematic in the case of a lawsuit. By treating them the same, it's a stronger legal position.

Poaching players is also an issue, though, as the NCAA hates anything that looks like a free market for talent.

There's also a debate because of how it affects mid-majors and high majors that goes something like this:
Mid major has a player that develops into a legit high major player, then loses the player to this rule. High major fixes a roster hole with player. Mid major is no longer competitive without it's star. Mid majors will slow down academic progress of players for fear of consequences to coach i.e. creates a conflict of interest.

"Another mid-major head coach, who lost one of his best players to a BCS school this past offseason, told ESPN he would be "slowing down the graduating process" for his players in order to ensure that he doesn't lose another to the high-major ranks."
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...uate-transfer-rule-hurting-college-basketball

I found it interesting that coach K was one who wants to 'fix' the rule. I wouldn't surprise me Duke doesn't use fifth year guys, and given how well they recruit, don't want high major rosters to have this option. Anyway, as usual, the rule will undoubtedly come down to money and influence. I personally am all for letting the athletes decide, but the powers that be, at least some of them, feel differently.
 
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#34
I just now noticed we don't have nassir little or landers nolley with offers for 2018. I know for sure little has one and nolley has an offer according to scout database.
 
#35
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I just now noticed we don't have nassir little or landers nolley with offers for 2018. I know for sure little has one and nolley has an offer according to scout database.
hmmm . . . haven't seen any discussion on the board of either of those names.
 
#37
I know little has one since he reported it on twitter awhile ago. Nolley I'm
not sure about. Probably no discussion since it was so hard to figure out all the offers and who we were involved for awhile.
As I'm sipping a margarita here on my yacht I had my errand boy run a search and he found that Little tweeted on May 1 that he received an Illini offer. I hadn't seen much about it or don't remember
 
#38
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I just now noticed we don't have nassir little or landers nolley with offers for 2018. I know for sure little has one and nolley has an offer according to scout database.
OK, I added Little and Nolley. Little is a 2018 SF from Orlando. Lolley is also a 2018 SF and currently plays in Georgia. Based on what I read, Lolley started his high school career at Curie HS in Chicago.

 

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Per Coach Underwood in the interview with Tate, Vesel has all of his paperwork in so he is now signed. Now the wait for August continues.
 
#42
There's also a debate because of how it affects mid-majors and high majors that goes something like this:
Mid major has a player that develops into a legit high major player, then loses the player to this rule. High major fixes a roster hole with player. Mid major is no longer competitive without it's star. Mid majors will slow down academic progress of players for fear of consequences to coach i.e. creates a conflict of interest.

"Another mid-major head coach, who lost one of his best players to a BCS school this past offseason, told ESPN he would be "slowing down the graduating process" for his players in order to ensure that he doesn't lose another to the high-major ranks."
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BU said in his interview with Tate that stopping academic progress to prevent transfer was being done. Do not like this as this is not supporting the student who should take priority over the program. The student and his end goals should always be the priority. First time I have been negative on BU.
 
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BU said in his interview with Tate that stopping academic progress to prevent transfer was being done. Do not like this as this is not supporting the student who should take priority over the program. The student and his end goals should always be the priority. First time I have been negative on BU.
I think he said this as a matter of fact, not that HE was doing it or supported the practice. He appears to be not a big fan of the 5th year transfer concept as a whole because it hurts mid majors.

Might be worth a second listen.
 
#45
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BU said in his interview with Tate that stopping academic progress to prevent transfer was being done. Do not like this as this is not supporting the student who should take priority over the program. The student and his end goals should always be the priority. First time I have been negative on BU.
He was stating a hypothetical situation that may occur as a reason he doesn't like the 5th year rule, not that this was a practice he utilizes.
 
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While a graduate transfer can hurt a mid major school, a person who redshirted whether from injury or coaches decision should not be penalized from gaining exposure at a P5 school. That person graduated and fulfilled their academic requirements at said mid major. It would be nice if they would stay at their original school for loyalty sake, but getting a better opportunity is not a bad thing. Who would pass up a better opportunity if it came up? I would not, but I would give my original place a chance first.
 
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