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Florida Atlantic 73, Illinois 71 OT POSTGAME
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Don’t trip on that bar!
Illinifan533
- Normal, Illinois
This type of system can have success. People who say it's not a good system forget it's derived from Bob Huggins, who has had a lot of success (but, has only made 1 Final Four, 2 Elite 8's, and has a bunch of eliminations in the Round of 32). I'm curious to see any differences that allow him to have the success that he has had. Does he actually have a half-court offense? Are his teams just better at executing the pressure? I haven't really watched West Virginia since Huggins has coached there.
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Clearly it was a big factor - but as I recall the announcers said FAU had their two leading scorers out - so even with missed layups - we should have been able to hold them to a low enough score to overcome that. We continue to get beat off the dribble and via back cut and we didn't pressure them until do or die. Why we can't run a trap or pressure full court with all of our guards is beyond me. BU is simply not a good in-game coach. The comments he makes after the game regarding what they 'should have done' or 'who should have been in the game earlier or more' tells you he only recognizes issues too late.
He’ll be coaching in the NBA before this job opens up.
A couple of days ago Facebook had the decency to show me the post I wrote after we got blown out by Maryland two years ago, in Groce’s last season. It was all about how little fun the team was having, how there wasn’t anyone on the court save for Malcolm who wanted the ball, how bad the energy generally was around the program. (Zero likes, zero shares.)
We’ve been seeing this same story play out for years now. No leadership, no engagement, no nothing. The guys didn’t even run the offense for a good chunk of the game. There’s such a pall around the whole program, and nothing has been able to lift it through, what, three coaches now?
Underwood got like a three-month honeymoon, and after a couple of tough losses and a recruiting miss it was over for him. I have no idea what it will take to change course at this point.
I wish they could have played a softer schedule to get these kids some wins this year. The team’s back just looks like it broke. No confidence, no trust in the coaches or each other, no nothing.
If/when Underwood goes in 2021, it will take a miracle for whoever comes next to turn it around. There’s just too much bad lingering in the air.
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TF goes off for a game, the other team can't make the game because of weather and forfeits. There are scenarios.
Seriously though, do they win a conference game?
I heard that too, but I have to believe the reason we miss so many damn layups is because players at this level should be athletic/bouncy/tall enough to dunk some of those. Instead we are shooting contested layups....even the ones where someone doesn't have a hand up to shoot over, we are getting bumped and not strong enough to work through it.
Meanwhile Purdue has a dude who looks like he's 5-7 who has about 3 dunks a game by himself...we don't have 3 dunks a game as a team.
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He won’t make it to 2021.
ILL in IA
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Yeah. He inherited a 12-20 team and went 20-13 and a trip to the tournament.
Not if they play like they did today.
Yes. They will win four.
Exactly the same here
What the heck is going on? Is it the players? The coach? All of the above? Something needs to change. There is still a lot of season left to go. I hope to see improvement( not just winning) or BU should be gone. He may be a great coach, but so far and for whatever reason it is not working at Illinois.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
That's a ridiculous read of Underwood's resume.
He went 53-1 in conference at SFA with a team that bore every possibly hallmark of having a genius coaching it, and then took an OSU team that had gone 12-20 the prior year to the tournament and the #1 offensive efficiency in the nation.
It was a home run hire. And is now a lesson in how much you actually know about the future the day you hire someone.
You don't just throw a resume into a machine and it starts spitting out wins. Underwood came in with a plan of how to move the program forward on the floor and in recruiting and hired a staff to execute that plan and has worked to guide and mold our roster toward that plan and it has been a total, unmitigated catastrophe. That can happen.
The future wasn't written the day Michigan hired Beilein or Kentucky hired Calipari or Texas Tech hired Chris Beard or take your pick. It's about all the decisions and practices and random flips of the coin that occur between that day and years down the line. You can increase your chances by making a "good" hire, but only by so much.
It's frustrating, but it is what it is. Whitman did everything right and epically failed.
Yep and George Armstrong Custer was a great General too...
No, this is not anywhere close to a great program. That narrative needs to stop. Rome was once a great civilization too.
Did you watch underwood at OSU? I did. He Inherited an NBA roster and got depantsed by the other coaches in the Big 12, including our old Bruce Weber. I watched the actual games, nearly every one of them because I worked there. Home run hire my !!!. You watch too much ESPN. He was the flavor of the month and sold some airtime with his angry demeanor. His coaching ability is sub-par at best. His recruiting is terrible. His ethics appear to be below board considering what went on when he was at OSU. That alone should have been a red flag.
Illinifan533
- Normal, Illinois
Like Rome, circumstances changed that led to Illini bball's basketball (i.e. lacking facilities, recruits becoming less localized in their colleges due to AAU). However, unlike Rome, Illinois can rise back to its former glory. U of I is still close to not one, not two, but THREE hubs of elite talent, as well as the fact that the entire state of Illinois has produced some good talent (remember the Peoria pipeline?). Again, the team doesn't need every single top recruit from these places, but combine the location with good resources and a rabid fanbase that will support a winner, and it's just mind-boggling that Illinois has had the struggles it is had the past decade+.
Time to panic?
Fans manic screamin g**dammit I can't stand this!!
losin to Florida Atlantic while they undermanned???? Sh*t!!!
Florida Atlantic - sound like a school for fish
Or a place where a ditzy b**** goes fishin for a husband quick
Underwood takin steps to see the undertaker
Teamplay ugly like Thon Maker in a thong makin lapdances fuh Vin Baker
Coach supposed to make men greater
But so far he just a great berater plus shameless media mastur***or
Coach playin his son, playin himself
Better take that Bible from shelf pray he change into Self (Bill)
Look in the mirror and go yell at yourself
Cuz as it stands - from the stands - looks like he not earnin his wealth.
There's still hope I suppose
Hope springs eternal in Champaign, like Kams springs eternal with h***
I know, that Ayo, and Giorgi will grow
And an older Samba that's swole can plug defensive holes
But still, f'real, Florida Atlantic at home?
That's like Italians losin at pasta with the contest in Rome
Is our new gameplan to play everyone stoned?
Cuz we Illini, we too proud to keep gettin boned
You know the dude, it's OrangeNBrood
One thirds he's thoughtful and two thirds he's crude
Losin again, what a horrible mood
So I'ma hit up the ***** club until somethin protrude
Fans manic screamin g**dammit I can't stand this!!
losin to Florida Atlantic while they undermanned???? Sh*t!!!
Florida Atlantic - sound like a school for fish
Or a place where a ditzy b**** goes fishin for a husband quick
Underwood takin steps to see the undertaker
Teamplay ugly like Thon Maker in a thong makin lapdances fuh Vin Baker
Coach supposed to make men greater
But so far he just a great berater plus shameless media mastur***or
Coach playin his son, playin himself
Better take that Bible from shelf pray he change into Self (Bill)
Look in the mirror and go yell at yourself
Cuz as it stands - from the stands - looks like he not earnin his wealth.
There's still hope I suppose
Hope springs eternal in Champaign, like Kams springs eternal with h***
I know, that Ayo, and Giorgi will grow
And an older Samba that's swole can plug defensive holes
But still, f'real, Florida Atlantic at home?
That's like Italians losin at pasta with the contest in Rome
Is our new gameplan to play everyone stoned?
Cuz we Illini, we too proud to keep gettin boned
You know the dude, it's OrangeNBrood
One thirds he's thoughtful and two thirds he's crude
Losin again, what a horrible mood
So I'ma hit up the ***** club until somethin protrude
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I watched a handful of OSU games that year. They were a ton of fun. With one fringe NBA 2nd round pick, albeit one who was a heck of a college player both pre-Underwood and with him.
There was plenty of evidence that his defense was going to have problems at the top level, that much is true. They made the legendary tactical switch-up midseason but they still weren't good at that end. His SFA teams were much better but it's easier to pressure low-major guard talent. Still, OSU were a symphony on offense, immediately upon his arrival. It's two years in and we're a series of stepped-on ducks, still.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Don't count Rome out yet bruh
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