ILL in IA
- Iowa City
How many left after year one with Groce? (not a shiny example to compare to I know)
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How many left after year one with Groce? (not a shiny example to compare to I know)
CAIllini
- West Coast
Four, all immediately, all guys who played sparingly, only one of whom had any real future with the team, who was also the only one where it wasn't totally coach-initiated. And it opened up roster spots for a complete, balanced roster the next season.
Turnover after year one is not uncommon. The circumstances here are a different story.
ILL in IA
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Cause for concern for sure. This may be more of the normal then we think though. 4 left Ohio State when Holtman took over. Nebraska had 4 leave going into 2017 and Milles has been there a while.
4 left after year 1 of Groce....
BU is tearing the house down to build up one that fits him. Time will tell.
4 left after year 1 of Groce....
BU is tearing the house down to build up one that fits him. Time will tell.
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
if there was ever a time for this, it’s now
There's 10's of thousands of kids on campus. Odds are theres some 6' 10" guys walking around somewhere.
Actually it's only 5.
Graduated: Alstork
Going Pro: Black
Transferred out: Smith, Lucas, Finke, Vesel, Ebo
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
All of those guys under Groce were after his first season.
He got lucky in a couple tournament games and OSU had talent available in place.
TheFlyingIllini1317
- Chicago, IL
You are right I forgot about Teets.
Yeah, it's a lot easier to turn around a program in one year when you have an NBA PG on the roster.
Dren1
- Glenview, IL
I know we are all upset, but this isn't even remotely true.
Three BU-recruited players have played for him so far. All three left after a single season.
The star of last year's team quit to go halfway around the world to play for peanuts rather than complete his eligibility here.
Parker Braun would have been a regular rotation player for us next year and he instead chose to walk on at Mizzou.
The alarm is ringing. Wake up.
I'm counting Black. I know the response to that, and it's wrong.
Yeah, that's what I meant, immediately after the end of that season, which is when transfers usually occur.
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Peoria Illini
- Peoria, IL
It will be interesting to hear from Coach Underwood on this. I'm sure it will be pretty boilerplate wish him well, etc.
See if they have anyone in the pipeline, etc.
See if they have anyone in the pipeline, etc.
I didn't say he was a bad coach, in fact i still have confidence in BU.
However exhibit A is hard to call anything other than lucky. I dont recall the other win, so I'll give that to him, though I'm sure Walkup helped a bit. Of course, every team has some luck especially to get that far, but that was one of the most purely luck based wins. Ever.
OSU had a good compliment of talented upperclassmen and an NBA PG. They had talent, though again I'll concede BU got the best out of them.
So to say he was lucky at SFA and had talent at OSU is, in fact, even remotely true
Oh they've got a pipeline alright
https://twitter.com/CoachShopSJ/status/1004454152473399298
For the uninitiated, that's Bryce Golden's not-as-good HS teammate.
I'm sure we'll do great filling four open scholarships with zero official visits to offer.
What the F. Why? Just why?
BU must really rub people the wrong way. Right? Or are we that poor of a program? Just at a loss.
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BU must really rub people the wrong way. Right? Or are we that poor of a program? Just at a loss.
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I didn't say he was a bad coach, in fact i still have confidence in BU.
However exhibit A is hard to call anything other than lucky. I dont recall the other win, so I'll give that to him, though I'm sure Walkup helped a bit. Of course, every team has some luck especially to get that far, but that was one of the most purely luck based wins. Ever.
OSU had a good compliment of talented upperclassmen and an NBA PG. They had talent, though again I'll concede BU got the best out of them.
So to say he was lucky at SFA and had talent at OSU is, in fact, even remotely true
BU was 53-1 in conference at SFA. Forget about the NCAA wins, his teams were totally dominant against comparable talent with a very system-oriented coaching-heavy style of play, in each of the three years he was there.
He did have an NBA PG to work with at OSU, but after early struggles re-arranged on the fly and ended up with the #1 offense in the country.
The track record was short, but 24 carat gold.
We haven't seen so much as a whiff of what he brought to those other schools.
Peoria Illini
- Peoria, IL
He's not going anywhere. I still have faith in BU and staff. We need to have tough minded kids. I think we are getting them in Ayo, Tevian and Griffin and Feliz. Giorgi as well.
Go to war with the guys that want to be here. Those that left, best of luck to them. But if they don't want to be here, they aren't helping us out by sticking around.
I didn't say he was a bad coach, in fact i still have confidence in BU.
However exhibit A is hard to call anything other than lucky. I dont recall the other win, so I'll give that to him, though I'm sure Walkup helped a bit. Of course, every team has some luck especially to get that far, but that was one of the most purely luck based wins. Ever.
OSU had a good compliment of talented upperclassmen and an NBA PG. They had talent, though again I'll concede BU got the best out of them.
So to say he was lucky at SFA and had talent at OSU is, in fact, even remotely true
SFA dominated WVU in 15-16 before losing at the last second to ND. The West Virginia win was impressive, but I will note that WV teams can be very stupid at times.
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