Illini Basketball 2020-2021

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There’s injury insurance these players can purchase and according to this article the going rate is $8k per million. So the risk of injury is easiest to mitigate IMO.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...nd-the-unregulated-world-of-player-protection

Also, there is an earnings potential in staying. Beginning January 2021 players will be able to begin selling their Name Image and Likeness. He and Kofi both stand to benefit from that.

Personally, I’m assuming that if he doesn’t get a combine invite then he’ll be back. There are only a couple players a year that are drafted without and invite.

I think a decision to stay in the draft without a combine invite would be a de facto commitment to playing overseas or in the G league.

Given the obvious uncertainty in the pro leagues I think the smart decision, without a combine invite, would be to return, purchase an injury policy, and begin strategizing NIL earnings beginning 2021.

A combine invite, and subsequent performance would be an entirely different scenario.
 
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Not sure that people realize of all the Illini media that Kedric and Behrens are extremely close to the Dosunmu family and have been since his MPHS days.
I was actually caught off guard that Kedric wrote that piece because of how close he is to the family. I would have thought he would just put it in his back pocket.
 
There’s injury insurance these players can purchase and according to this article the going rate is $8k per million. So the risk of injury is easiest to mitigate IMO.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...nd-the-unregulated-world-of-player-protection

Also, there is an earnings potential in staying. Beginning January 2021 players will be able to begin selling their Name Image and Likeness. He and Kofi both stand to benefit from that.

Personally, I’m assuming that if he doesn’t get a combine invite then he’ll be back. There are only a couple players a year that are drafted without and invite.

I think a decision to stay in the draft without a combine invite would be a de facto commitment to playing overseas or in the G league.

Given the obvious uncertainty in the pro leagues I think the smart decision, without a combine invite, would be to return, purchase an injury policy, and begin strategizing NIL earnings beginning 2021.

A combine invite, and subsequent performance would be an entirely different scenario.
Injury insurance is not really a replacement here. It just softens the blow. Consider that the final first-round pick last year had a contract worth about $8M. If Ayo can come up with $64,000 to cover that, then good for him, but that still only covers his rookie contract. Deron Williams made north of $152,000,000 in his career in the NBA. Certainly Ayo would rather go on to a long, durable NBA career than take his insurance check and go do something else.
 
Injury insurance is not really a replacement here. It just softens the blow. Consider that the final first-round pick last year had a contract worth about $8M. If Ayo can come up with $64,000 to cover that, then good for him, but that still only covers his rookie contract. Deron Williams made north of $152,000,000 in his career in the NBA. Certainly Ayo would rather go on to a long, durable NBA career than take his insurance check and go do something else.
Who doesn't have $64k lying around? And another several hundred grand to actually understand that the contract was written to be full of holes from the start (those are one-way holes, btw, in favor of the insurer)?
 
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Who doesn't have $64k lying around? And another several hundred grand to actually understand that the contract was written to be full of holes from the start (those are one-way holes, btw, in favor of the insurer)?
According to the article NCAA atheletes are allowed to borrow against future earnings for insurance.

The downside to insurance:
8k/1M sounds a bit high. Does 1 in 125 of the top NCAA players per year go down with career ending injuries?
Collecting will likely be difficult. How many athlets have zero pre-existing conditions (known or not)?

The upside:
If it is a fair contract, it guarantees that they have all the money they need for life. If all goes well, the multi-millionaire won't miss the $64k. If things don't go well, instead of having nothing, they have millions to retire, or start their own company doing their second choice occupation. While not perfect, it is far beyond the choices most people get.
 
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The honesty of the insurance policy aside which is a fair point - I personally wouldn’t be insuring my potential NBA earnings in this scenario because a return to school would mean any NBA earnings at all were unlikely to begin with. I’d be insuring against losing the fall-back plan of playing overseas / G league.
 
According to the article NCAA atheletes are allowed to borrow against future earnings for insurance.

The downside to insurance:
8k/1M sounds a bit high. Does 1 in 125 of the top NCAA players per year go down with career ending injuries?
Collecting will likely be difficult. How many athlets have zero pre-existing conditions (known or not)?

The upside:
If it is a fair contract, it guarantees that they have all the money they need for life. If all goes well, the multi-millionaire won't miss the $64k. If things don't go well, instead of having nothing, they have millions to retire, or start their own company doing their second choice occupation. While not perfect, it is far beyond the choices most people get.
I don't think that's a fair assessment. We can't assume that every athlete can afford enough of this to make them set for life. Further, having enough to get by for your whole life is entirely different from the standard of living the relevant players would otherwise likely have enjoyed.
 
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DJ Carton with immediate eligibility at Marquette. Nojel Eastern back on the market. We just might want to fix Nojel's Mom up with Mark Smith's Dad.:)
 
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Personally, I’m assuming that if he doesn’t get a combine invite then he’ll be back. There are only a couple players a year that are drafted without and invite.
Agree. Ayo needed the B1G tourney and the NCAA tourney to showcase his skills. Since that didn't happen, the combine is the key. Without an invite, I don't know how he gets a look, except going to the G league and working up from there.
 
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I don't think that's a fair assessment. We can't assume that every athlete can afford enough of this to make them set for life. Further, having enough to get by for your whole life is entirely different from the standard of living the relevant players would otherwise likely have enjoyed.
What isn't fair about this? The insurance isn't for every athlete. It is for the elite; those that will make the NBA draft, the first 3(?) rounds of the NFL draft, or equivalent in their well paying sport. These are the players who can borrow against their future earnings. They should buy insurance for thier expected earnings. $100M of insurance is 800k**. If people are convinced they are an $100M player, they will get the loan. If not, take the hint. The insurance payout is the "everything went to hell" case. $8M is a pretty nice worst case. It isn't just "getting by". It is more than enough to start a second career, or to retire if you so choose.

** The actuarials are needed to know if this is a fair price.
 
I have looked for information about Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk concerning his development and his health. There are a lot of questions about how the 4 will be filled in the next couple of years. I thought Verdonk showed a lot of potential before he got hurt last year. Anyone have information on his health and what the staff expects from him in the next couple of years?
 
For the record I’m hoping Ayo gets drafted; I’m not going to root against the kid.

I’m just trying to emphasize that while us fans are wringing our hands in anticipation the likely indicator will be whether he gets that combine invite or not; same is true with every player.

I found this article which states:
Over the last five years, NBA teams have drafted a total of 11 college players who did not secure combine invitations. That’s fewer than three per year. The highest of those picks was Josh Huestis, whom the Thunder selected with the 29th pick of the 2014 NBA Draft. Huestis subsequently spent most of his career in the G League.

https://www.syracuse.com/orangebask...vitation-to-future-nba-career-we-checked.html
 
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Recent CBS Sports article:
Key dates
The NBA has reinforced it will proceed with caution, saying earlier this month that if the season resumes as scheduled, it will resume July 31. So if that goes off without a hitch, the draft lottery will be held August 25. The draft will take place on October 15. The 2020-2021 NBA season will begin six weeks removed from the draft.

The withdrawal deadline dictated by the NCAA is set for August 3 or 10 days after the NBA Draft combine. The combine has not been scheduled and may not happen at all.
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So no word yet on whether the combine will happen at all. Meaning there is a chance Ayo is forced to make a decision on August 3, without the benefit of having a combine invite as a data point. That would certainly suck.
 
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It's certainly an abnormal year-plus of NCAA and pro sports. Tons of uncertainty for athletes, owners, management, coaches and fans to wade through.

And it's particularly tough for athletes in a position like Kofi and Ayo.
 
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I have looked for information about Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk concerning his development and his health. There are a lot of questions about how the 4 will be filled in the next couple of years. I thought Verdonk showed a lot of potential before he got hurt last year. Anyone have information on his health and what the staff expects from him in the next couple of years?
From what I have heard, the staff really doesn’t know what to expect from him since they have seen so little of him healthy. The assumption seems to be that he should be healthy, but until they get some real workouts in who knows.
 
From what I have heard, the staff really doesn’t know what to expect from him since they have seen so little of him healthy. The assumption seems to be that he should be healthy, but until they get some real workouts in who knows.
Thanks for the info.
 
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Recent CBS Sports article:

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So no word yet on whether the combine will happen at all. Meaning there is a chance Ayo is forced to make a decision on August 3, without the benefit of having a combine invite as a data point. That would certainly suck.
Thanks for the link. I thought I remembered hearing August for the combine and if after all this time they don’t end up having one that’s got to be devastating for guys like Ayo to be denied the tourney and then combine.

I wonder if it had been better to do what the nfl did and draft on schedule after an only virtual predraft process. I’m guessing that working out a draft order mid-season would be an easier feat than orchestrating a new draft date and all of the other details.
 
Early entry withdrawal date October 6th. No mention of combine.

Yahoo article
A w k w a r d. So, does a player simply skip the fall semester, withdraw his name on Oct. 6, and then play the spring semester? Or, does he enroll in classes in the fall but not participate in basketball activities, withdraw his name on Oct. 6 and report to practice on the 7th?
 
A w k w a r d. So, does a player simply skip the fall semester, withdraw his name on Oct. 6, and then play the spring semester? Or, does he enroll in classes in the fall but not participate in basketball activities, withdraw his name on Oct. 6 and report to practice on the 7th?
Edit: I just heard on the radio that the date to withdraw your name from the draft per the NCAA is still Aug. 3. Which date is correct?
 
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