Illini Basketball 2020-2021

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Any word on what happened with the Connor Serven situation? I thought that he had previously committed as a walk-on also but I haven't seen his name on the roster nor any recent news regarding him.
 
       
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I'm thinking we will see multiple starting line-ups and playing time dictated by matchups, particularly on D. If these team has the chemistry, it will go far.

How many championship teams can you name on any level that have altered their starting lineups based on match-ups?
 
       
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Any word on what happened with the Connor Serven situation? I thought that he had previously committed as a walk-on also but I haven't seen his name on the roster nor any recent news regarding him.

Per THIS ARTICLE he did commit the Saturday following our win over Iowa. I didn't realize we had a "preferred walk on" position that you could commit to.
 
       
How many championship teams can you name on any level that have altered their starting lineups based on match-ups?

I don't follow the NBA so I can't comment on how that works in professional basketball, but MLB teams obviously alter lineups based on match-ups (e.g. with pitchers) and that extends to championship teams. NFL teams change their schemes based on match-ups which sometimes but not usually involves personnel changes. NHL teams frequently reshuffle their lines based on match-ups.

It's not as uncommon as you seem to think.
 
       
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2004-2005 team started the same 5 for all 39 games.
 
       
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Any word on what happened with the Connor Serven situation? I thought that he had previously committed as a walk-on also but I haven't seen his name on the roster nor any recent news regarding him.
He was mentioned in the 247 article on Padilla coming on. Read it quickly but seemed like both were on campus.
 
       
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2004-2005 team started the same 5 for all 39 games.
The 2004-5 team had jelled the year before and returned everyone, so barring injury, you knew who the starting 5 were.
The 2020-1 team will need a few games to sort things out, then we will see if they stick with a single starting 5 or something else.
But I can't wait to watch these guys play!
 
       
Edgar Padilla jr. joining the team as a Walk on and he played for the U17 Puerto Rican national team. Sounds like a heck of a walk on. Are we putting a possible future scholarship player on the roster? Rafael Pinzon is on this same team. Sure there is a story there some place.
 
       
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BU is a good coach and good coaches will play the best players regardless of class. All things being equal he may and likely will play TF and DMW for that matter but if incoming players are better they will play. Good coaches play the best players that earn P T regardless of class. To do otherwise is like a little league coach playing his kid over the neighbors clearly more talented kid! BU wont do that. The best player that earns the time will play.

Playing and starting are two different issues. Both of the frosh guards will get starters minutes, but 5 other guys may also get those type of minutes.
 
       
Playing and starting are two different issues. Both of the frosh guards will get starters minutes, but 5 other guys may also get those type of minutes.
I understand what you are saying however if someone is clearly better BU will start them regardless of class. If we had had a senior last year at center last season Kofi still would have jumped him if he were better which would likely would be the case. If a possible All B10 type of talent type comes in and proves himself as in past Illinois history then BU will start them and give them more tick. Coaches have seniors on there rosters that may never even hardly play. It's about what they can do as players not what class they are. Seniority only matters if all other factors are equal to good coaches. I've been to several Senior day games overvthe years and there are many seniors that never started a game. It's not about class at all but ability and how well you play under stress. Some may be Seniors but others may not It doesnt come into why they may start or play more. It's about performing better than others do so we have a better chance to win. That's why and underclassmen Ayo took over end of game shots instead of Junior TF last year. It's the same comcept.
 
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We have good players and good coaches. Hopefully the players are less worried about who starts than the fans. Personally, I'm much more concerned with who finishes than who starts. You can bet it will be the guys who best understand the defensive principles and don't make many mistakes on that end.
 
       
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I don't follow the NBA so I can't comment on how that works in professional basketball, but MLB teams obviously alter lineups based on match-ups (e.g. with pitchers) and that extends to championship teams. NFL teams change their schemes based on match-ups which sometimes but not usually involves personnel changes. NHL teams frequently reshuffle their lines based on match-ups.

It's not as uncommon as you seem to think.

I started to type all sports but then thought of football (MLB is a different animal with different starting pitchers every game, can't speak intelligently about hockey) and even then any sustained success comes from excelling at what you do best. Great basketball teams force teams to react to them. Again, I can't think of a single championship caliber team in college or pro basketball that adjusted their starting lineups based on their opponents and if I'm missing any they're clearly an exception rather than rule.
 
       
Any word on what happened with the Connor Serven situation? I thought that he had previously committed as a walk-on also but I haven't seen his name on the roster nor any recent news regarding him.
https://247sports.com/college/illin...llinois-Fighting-Illini-basketball-150630261/

"Padilla and fellow walk-on Connor Serven, who went to St. Rita in Chicago, moved to campus earlier this month and they have joined their teammates in team activities. "

Same article alaskaillini found, above.
 
       
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2004-2005 team started the same 5 for all 39 games.
Great point TC. Such an amazing year and an incredible factoid. I'm a Yankee fan and they get hurt staring at the playing field.
 
       
I understand what you are saying however if someone is clearly better BU will start them regardless of class. If we had had a senior last year at center last season Kofi still would have jumped him if he were better which would likely would be the case. If a possible All B10 type of talent type comes in and proves himself as in past Illinois history then BU will start them and give them more tick. Coaches have seniors on there rosters that may never even hardly play. It's about what they can do as players not what class they are. Seniority only matters if all other factors are equal to good coaches. I've been to several Senior day games overvthe years and there are many seniors that never started a game. It's not about class at all but ability and how well you play under stress. Some may be Seniors but others may not It doesnt come into why they may start or play more. It's about performing better than others do so we have a better chance to win. That's why and underclassmen Ayo took over end of game shots instead of Junior TF last year. It's the same comcept.

No way he sits a 3 year starter like Trent. We aren't talking about just a senior, we're talking about a 3 year starter.
 
       
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If this coaching staff can create and sell the attitude that starting isn't that big of a deal, playing meaningful minutes is, I would expect BU to go with a starting 5 of veteran upper classmen (unless someone is struggling mightily)....in which case you insert one of the newcomers. With the talent and flexibility on this squad i would expect multiple combinations of 5 on the floor throughout the game depending on match ups and individual player strengths....playing possibly 9-10 different people meaningful minutes is a real possibility this year. Starting the veteran players that have been with the program, putting in the time and effort staying the course sends a message to others that hard work and loyalty will not go unnoticed....thats not to say a starter will automatically play 25-30 minutes...in fact I could see a veteran starting and getting maybe 15-20 minutes of playing time and someone coming in off the bench getting 20-25 minutes.
 
       
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2004-2005 team started the same 5 for all 39 games.

I always remember thinking in my younger years that our 2005 team was so good and not especially deep, and this was probably why (I was in seventh grade during our run). Additionally, the exponential dropoff in success over the next three years probably reinforced that idea (i.e., once those starters had all left ... look where we were). However, with time I have really come to appreciate the athletes and playmakers we had sitting on that bench and how essential they were to our magical run that year, with Ingram being an obvious one.
 
       
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If this coaching staff can create and sell the attitude that starting isn't that big of a deal, playing meaningful minutes is, I would expect BU to go with a starting 5 of veteran upper classmen (unless someone is struggling mightily)....in which case you insert one of the newcomers. With the talent and flexibility on this squad i would expect multiple combinations of 5 on the floor throughout the game depending on match ups and individual player strengths....playing possibly 9-10 different people meaningful minutes is a real possibility this year. Starting the veteran players that have been with the program, putting in the time and effort staying the course sends a message to others that hard work and loyalty will not go unnoticed....thats not to say a starter will automatically play 25-30 minutes...in fact I could see a veteran starting and getting maybe 15-20 minutes of playing time and someone coming in off the bench getting 20-25 minutes.
It seems that most years, we think that we will go 9-10 deep, and end up at 8. However, this year, I have difficulty seeing how we don't really have 10 in the rotation. At least 8+ minutes/game.
 
       
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I always remember thinking in my younger years that our 2005 team was so good and not especially deep, and this was probably why (I was in seventh grade during our run). Additionally, the exponential dropoff in success over the next three years probably reinforced that idea (i.e., once those starters had all left ... look where we were). However, with time I have really come to appreciate the athletes and playmakers we had sitting on that bench and how essential they were to our magical run that year, with Ingram being an obvious one.
The 2005 team ended up losing Brian Randle early in the year, and he would likely have been the 6th man. Other than the starting 5 and Randle, the team used Nick Smith, who just didn't work well within the team or the scheme, Jack Ingram, who admittedly had a great NCAA tournament, and Rich McBride, who was barely a factor when on the floor. Warren Carter was also on the roster, but didn't play a whole lot until the games were blowouts.

The starting 5 did the lion's share of the work that year, and was also a huge reason why they struggled when Augustine only got 8 minutes in the NCAA championship.
 
       
So.....any video or anyone have any idea what kind of player Padilla is? Is he a guy that could play in the Horizon (Mike LaTulip), but is coming here? Does he actually have potential to play here?
 
       
It seems that most years, we think that we will go 9-10 deep, and end up at 8. However, this year, I have difficulty seeing how we don't really have 10 in the rotation. At least 8+ minutes/game.
Exactly. You always have to figure on some injuries, suspensions, redshirts and departures. I'd love to see ten guys play double digit minutes but I'll believe it when I see it.
 
       
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