Illini Basketball 2020-2021

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Welcome to the Illini Basketball & College Basketball 2020-2021 thread

College basketball season begins Wed., Nov. 25th

Reported (unofficial) schedule so far-
Nov. 25-27: 3 games at home vs North Carolina A&T, Ohio & Wright State
vs Baylor perhaps in Indy (the games in Orlando have been cancelled)
Dec. 8-9 ACC/Big Ten Challenge

Emerald Coast Classic has been cancelled
Home game vs Arizona has been moved to the 2021-2022 season


Roster
Ayo Dosunmu
Trent Frazier
Andre Curbelo
Adam Miller
Jacob Grandison
Coleman Hawkins
Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk
Giorgi Bezhanishvili
Da'Monte Williams
Austin Hutcherson
Jermaine Hamlin
Brandon Lieb
Kofi Cockburn
 
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That is pretty good when you see a roster, and there are only 2 guys you can't see as having a role of >15 minutes! (random number I just came up with.)

I'm not saying each guy will have that many minutes, just that an argument could be made preseason that each guy has that ability to carve out a role. Unfortunately, we won't have the roles available for each guy and some will be on the bench most nights. Good problem to have!
 
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That is pretty good when you see a roster, and there are only 2 guys you can't see as having a role of >15 minutes! (random number I just came up with.)

I'm not saying each guy will have that many minutes, just that an argument could be made preseason that each guy has that ability to carve out a role. Unfortunately, we won't have the roles available for each guy and some will be on the bench most nights. Good problem to have!
Too early to tell. At this point last year we might have argued that Verdonk and Jones would have been projected double minute guys. Too much can happen as the season progresses.
 
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That is pretty good when you see a roster, and there are only 2 guys you can't see as having a role of >15 minutes! (random number I just came up with.)

I'm not saying each guy will have that many minutes, just that an argument could be made preseason that each guy has that ability to carve out a role. Unfortunately, we won't have the roles available for each guy and some will be on the bench most nights. Good problem to have!
Everyone on the team is going to have to fight for their share of floor time. In many cases this season, the team they play in practice will be as good as the team they play on game day. Can't wait for tip-off!
 
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Too early to tell. At this point last year we might have argued that Verdonk and Jones would have been projected double minute guys. Too much can happen as the season progresses.
Totally agree. That is basically what I am saying. It is nice to have a loaded roster. There are only 2 guys on the roster that I am confident in saying "I don't see any way that they have a significant role." That is Hamlin and Lieb.
 
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Totally agree. That is basically what I am saying. It is nice to have a loaded roster. There are only 2 guys on the roster that I am confident in saying "I don't see any way that they have a significant role." That is Hamlin and Lieb.
Depending on how Hamlin has progressed I actually could see a role for him. If he can go hard, defend, rim protect and rebound, essentially be a better defender than Giorgi, I could see him getting 10ish minutes a game, particularly in the second half if we have a lead. Keep Kofi fresh and out of foul trouble.
 
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Depending on how Hamlin has progressed I actually could see a role for him. If he can go hard, defend, rim protect and rebound, essentially be a better defender than Giorgi, I could see him getting 10ish minutes a game, particularly in the second half if we have a lead. Keep Kofi fresh and out of foul trouble.
Sure...you can make that argument. I don't see it. I think we have too many other talented players on the roster for Hamlin to see 10 minutes.
 
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Depending on how Hamlin has progressed I actually could see a role for him. If he can go hard, defend, rim protect and rebound, essentially be a better defender than Giorgi, I could see him getting 10ish minutes a game, particularly in the second half if we have a lead. Keep Kofi fresh and out of foul trouble.
With Kofi playing 30-31 MPG, Hamlin's absolute ceiling is 9-10 MPG and even that would require him beating out Giorgi for those backup minutes. I think with the increase competition at the 4 with BBV, Coleman, and 2 transfers, that Underwood plays Giorgi at the 4/5 for ~21-22 MPG and that Hamlin sees about the same amount of playtime as he got last season (maybe even a slight reduction). Hamlin might end up with 10 MPG on the stat sheet at the end of the season, but that would only happen because he's probably not going to play in every game and he might get more minutes in the games he does play if Kofi or Giorgi picks up fouls or we're just steamrolling the team so that garbage time is the entire 2nd half (for example our upcoming bragging rights game).

Keep in mind that COVID drops us from 31 games down to just 27 so there are only 5400 minutes to split instead of the regular 6200. I think the biggest impact that will have is fewer garbage time minutes to give to some of our non-primary rotation players which may mean players like BBV, Hawkins, and Hamlin have a harder time fighting for playing time this season.

Torvik predicts the following MIN (minutes per season) and MPG (minutes per 27 games) for our players (I created the last 2 columns based on his MIN% value). I think Torvik is pretty spot on for most players. His algorithm clearly is incapable of understanding that Underwood is going to play Da'Monte even if he can't score, and I think it's a little too low on our Transfers since he has no data for them playing at the Big 10 level and also on our freshman since they don't have 5 stars next to their names. I'd personally give Miller 23-28, Curbelo 20-24 (based on comps of Rocket Watts and DJ Carton), and Austin/Jacob 14-25 but otherwise I think it's pretty close.

PLAYERYRHTPRPG!MIN%ORTGUSAGEPPGRPGAPGMINMPG
Ayo DosunmuJr5-Jun4.9821152416.44.23.4885.632.8
Kofi CockburnSoJul-004.9751192415.18.81.181030
Trent FrazierSr2-Jun3701131811.72.51.775628
Giorgi BezhanishviliJr9-Jun2.462106219.55.51.5669.624.8
Adam MillerFr3-Jun2.454112196.42.71.8583.221.6
Austin HutchersonJr6-Jun2.246117185.13.41.1496.818.4
Jacob GrandisonJr6-Jun1.438110173.82.61.2410.415.2
Andre CurbeloFrJun-001.434111193.60.61.6367.213.6
Da'Monte WilliamsSr3-Jun0.623112111.41.80.7248.49.2
Coleman HawkinsFr10-Jun0.5151091721.201626
 
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Arizona game moved to next year per Jon Rothstein