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jmwillini · Apr 9, 2017

Is the consensus Martin or Coleman, or is there other possibilities?

Brass Cannon · Apr 9, 2017

Don't expect too much from Martin, if you'll notice recruiting dipped considerably when he can on IUs staff.

Obelix · Apr 9, 2017

What happened to the "big name" some posters alluded to?

mattcoldagelli · Apr 9, 2017

Brass Cannon said:
Don't expect too much from Martin, if you'll notice recruiting dipped considerably when he can on IUs staff.

Tell us more, guy who deemed the Archie Miller hire unacceptable.

Brass Cannon · Apr 9, 2017

mattcoldagelli said:
Tell us more, guy who deemed the Archie Miller hire unacceptable.

Disappointing =\= unacceptable

Second and Chalmers · Apr 9, 2017

sacraig said:
He absolutely has to have the last word. It just derails any other conversation.

On this point I rule myself guilty as charged. My apologies if anyone thinks I've tried to shout them down, and know that nothing could be further from the truth. I'm just a sucker for screed-on-screed action. I'm gonna work on decaf posting though, I promise.

IlliniBone said:
Stephen Gentry name tag at Ubben...

https://twitter.com/IlliniFuzz/status/851142209244192769

ray:

combes said:
Indiana has filled out its coaching staff. Martin is not one of them.

Neither is Rob Judson. Just sayin'

Second and Chalmers · Apr 9, 2017

Also, is the Mike Mennenga thing out the window?

The similarity between Oregon and Underwood offensively made that one seem pretty appealing from my perspective.

Seagee · Apr 9, 2017

Second and Chalmers said:
On this point I rule myself guilty as charged. My apologies if anyone thinks I've tried to shout them down, and know that nothing could be further from the truth. I'm just a sucker for screed-on-screed action. I'm gonna work on decaf posting though, I promise.

ray:ray:ray:ray:

Neither is Rob Judson. Just sayin'

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MakeIlliniGreatAgain · Apr 9, 2017

Enough of the debate people. Chuck Mart :illinois:

n. Book it.

Jkat00 · Apr 9, 2017

Second and Chalmers said:
Also, is the Mike Mennenga thing out the window?

The similarity between Oregon and Underwood offensively made that one seem pretty appealing from my perspective.

Unfortunately I think he turned Illinois down.

sacraig · Apr 10, 2017

Second and Chalmers said:
On this point I rule myself guilty as charged. My apologies if anyone thinks I've tried to shout them down, and know that nothing could be further from the truth. I'm just a sucker for screed-on-screed action. I'm gonna work on decaf posting though, I promise.

Ha! I, for one, am at least glad you weren't perma-banned (even though I was the one arguing with you at the time).

Obelix · Apr 10, 2017

EfremWinters84 said:
My take = Illinois is remaining in the doldrums of college basketball (in at least the short term).

Our recruiting is far from over in 2017 and I believe we have an even greater chance to make a splash with the 2018 class. So I think your take is premature, JMO.

Smacko · Apr 10, 2017

Martin would be a great hire. Dude is an established recruiter. Him and Orlando could really do some damage. Think of the upgrade we would be getting from Ford and Parham to Orlando and Martin....HUGE improvement.

TCTORNADO · Apr 10, 2017

Smacko said:
Martin would be a great hire. Dude is an established recruiter. Him and Orlando could really do some damage. Think of the upgrade we would be getting from Ford and Parham to Orlando and Martin....HUGE improvement.

May have to upgrade that assistant's salary pool in order to get Martin.

Obelix · Apr 10, 2017

Just speculation on my part, but if it is Martin (and all signs point to him), we may be waiting until Indiana formally and officially announces their assistants. There may be some contractual/compensation reasons with his former employer.

FrankNitty · Apr 10, 2017

Maybe this has already been pointed out. If so, I apologize. I did not know much about Chuck Martin so I started doing some research. Martin is from Dodge City and graduated High School in 1989. Underwoods first coaching job was at Dodge City Community College in 1988. I would think it is reasonable to think that Martin and Underwood have known each other for close to 30 years.

PlayAZ · Apr 10, 2017

FrankNitty said:
Maybe this has already been pointed out. If so, I apologize. I did not know much about Chuck Martin so I started doing some research. Martin is from Dodge City and graduated High School in 1989. Underwoods first coaching job was at Dodge City Community College in 1988. I would think it is reasonable to think that Martin and Underwood have known each other for close to 30 years.

Never underestimate the level of your sneakiness^^^^:thumb:

TheGMan · Apr 10, 2017

Sorry to get off track, but who is Stephen Gentry, and, more importantly, why does it seem that so many people on here are super excited for him?

foby · Apr 10, 2017

Gentry's page for SFA - http://www.sfajacks.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/stephen_gentry_846213.html

BananaShampoo · Apr 10, 2017

foby said:
Gentry's page for SFA - http://www.sfajacks.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/stephen_gentry_846213.html

For a guy as young as he is that's a pretty stellar resume.

Second and Chalmers · Apr 10, 2017

TheGMan said:
Sorry to get off track, but who is Stephen Gentry, and, more importantly, why does it seem that so many people on here are super excited for him?

What I've heard is that he's Underwood's X's and O's guy, a big influence on the system and gameplanning in his career so far. And as "Director of Player Development" he was obviously intimately involved in installing that system that went so well at Oklahoma State.

You'd like a guy like that to be involved on the recruiting side as well, or more specifically the talent evaluation and scouting as someone who really understands what the system needs, but a non-assistant staffer can have an informal role that way.

With Boynton and Evans at OSU, Gentry is an absolute must-have. You give him the 3rd assistant spot if that's what it takes.

Kramer116 · Apr 10, 2017

Second and Chalmers said:
What I've heard is that he's Underwood's X's and O's guy, a big influence on the system and gameplanning in his career so far. And as "Director of Player Development" he was obviously intimately involved in installing that system that went so well at Oklahoma State.

You'd like a guy like that to be involved on the recruiting side as well, or more specifically the talent evaluation and scouting as someone who really understands what the system needs, but a non-assistant staffer can have an informal role that way.

With Boynton and Evans at OSU, Gentry is an absolute must-have. You give him the 3rd assistant spot if that's what it takes.

No way as 3rd assistant.

He will be part of the support staff.

Second and Chalmers · Apr 10, 2017

Kramer116 said:
No way as 3rd assistant.

He will be part of the support staff.

Yeah, no way a guy who went 53-1 in conference with Underwood as a full assistant would ever be qualified for the same job here.

If he's gettable as a support staffer and we can add another talented basketball coach to the assistant ranks, fantastic! But Walker, Antigua and Gentry as your staff is a wildly brighter future for the program than say Walker, Antigua and Chuck Martin with no Gentry.

I know everyone disagrees. I know even Underwood might disagree. But SFA's symphony of basketball ain't coming if Underwood just surrounds himself with a bunch of Calipari-bots.

I will now learn my lesson and make that my final post on the matter for this evening. :tape:

combes · Apr 10, 2017

Second and Chalmers said:
What I've heard is that he's Underwood's X's and O's guy, a big influence on the system and gameplanning in his career so far. And as "Director of Player Development" he was obviously intimately involved in installing that system that went so well at Oklahoma State.

You'd like a guy like that to be involved on the recruiting side as well, or more specifically the talent evaluation and scouting as someone who really understands what the system needs, but a non-assistant staffer can have an informal role that way.

With Boynton and Evans at OSU, Gentry is an absolute must-have. You give him the 3rd assistant spot if that's what it takes.

Not a chance. Underwood is the brains behind his system, not Gentry. That third assistant's job is going to someone more deserving and more important to the program long term, IMO.

Obelix · Apr 10, 2017

combes said:
Not a chance. Underwood is the brains behind his system, not Gentry. That third assistant's job is going to someone more deserving and more important to the program long term, IMO.

I do not know about not a chance, but I hope not.

We are not going to outsmart Izzo, Beilein, and other B1G programs with the X's and O's wizardry of our 3rd assistant. We need talent, and need it fast IMO.

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