Illini Coaching Staff

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Kramer116

Kramer116
Chicago
Kramer116
Second and Chalmers said:
Yeah, no way a guy who went 53-1 in conference with Underwood as a full assistant would ever be qualified for the same job here.

If he's gettable as a support staffer and we can add another talented basketball coach to the assistant ranks, fantastic! But Walker, Antigua and Gentry as your staff is a wildly brighter future for the program than say Walker, Antigua and Chuck Martin with no Gentry.

I know everyone disagrees. I know even Underwood might disagree. But SFA's symphony of basketball ain't coming if Underwood just surrounds himself with a bunch of Calipari-bots.

I will now learn my lesson and make that my final post on the matter for this evening. :tape:
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You're entitled to your opinion but I'll respectfully disagree.

You bring in assistants who are the best combo of recruiters and coaches.

Say what you want about Antigua and Martin but they are both top recruiters and have been D1 head coaches.

I just get confused by your stances sometimes but hell thats why we are on a message board.

It doesn't even matter because Gentry will be here in a support staff role anyways so pointless to argue about it imo.
 
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hermie1985

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Second and Chalmers said:
Yeah, no way a guy who went 53-1 in conference with Underwood as a full assistant would ever be qualified for the same job here.

If he's gettable as a support staffer and we can add another talented basketball coach to the assistant ranks, fantastic! But Walker, Antigua and Gentry as your staff is a wildly brighter future for the program than say Walker, Antigua and Chuck Martin with no Gentry.

I know everyone disagrees. I know even Underwood might disagree. But SFA's symphony of basketball ain't coming if Underwood just surrounds himself with a bunch of Calipari-bots.

I will now learn my lesson and make that my final post on the matter for this evening. :tape:
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This is probably just a different way of saying Walker is clogging up the pipeline.
 
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combes

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Second and Chalmers said:
Yeah, no way a guy who went 53-1 in conference with Underwood as a full assistant would ever be qualified for the same job here.

If he's gettable as a support staffer and we can add another talented basketball coach to the assistant ranks, fantastic! But Walker, Antigua and Gentry as your staff is a wildly brighter future for the program than say Walker, Antigua and Chuck Martin with no Gentry.

I know everyone disagrees. I know even Underwood might disagree. But SFA's symphony of basketball ain't coming if Underwood just surrounds himself with a bunch of Calipari-bots.

I will now learn my lesson and make that my final post on the matter for this evening. :tape:
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Why wasn't he a full assistant at OSU instead of a Texas high school coach? I'm guessing that BU wants Antigua, Walker, Martin and Gentry around him.
 
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combes

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combes
Obelix said:
Just speculation on my part, but if it is Martin (and all signs point to him), we may be waiting until Indiana formally and officially announces their assistants. There may be some contractual/compensation reasons with his former employer.
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There is another reason that will be obvious in a few days.
 
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MadSeason

MadSeason
MadSeason
combes said:
Why wasn't he a full assistant at OSU instead of a Texas high school coach? I'm guessing that BU wants Antigua, Walker, Martin and Gentry around him.
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That has always been my position on this. If we trust BU, which I think we should, we should be comfortable that he believes he can run his system with the coaches he chooses. All 3 (if Martin is guy) are seasoned coaches who have coached at the highest levels. It's an extremely exciting group in my estimation.
 
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Second and Chalmers

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Second and Chalmers
combes said:
Why wasn't he a full assistant at OSU instead of a Texas high school coach?
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Probably because Underwood knows he needs players, he had a lot of his SFA staff around him, and Gentry was young and didn't have a ton of leverage and would take the job.

Having been the Director of Player Development at a major conference school which was wildly successful turning Travis Ford's talented but garbageball-trained leftovers into the #1 offense in the nation, his leverage is different now.

Why have Joey Biggs and Patrick Schulte been announced and Gentry hasn't? It ain't rocket science, Gentry is looking around for an opportunity for a full assistant gig that would be a better springboard for his future.

It sounds like that search has not borne fruit for him. Though you'll forgive me for not celebrating yet when Evans was also a fait accompli pencil-in for the staff until about 12 hours before he wasn't.
 
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jbutts718

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Underwood is a smart, smart guy........

Why hasn't Martin been announced as the 3rd assistant?? Because 4/10-4/13 is a dead period.....no recruiting. BUT.....if he hasn't been hired, he can be making calls/recruiting for Illinois. Guarantee he is recruiting right now. Smart to use this gray area.
 
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jbutts718

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As a matter of fact......

jbutts718 said:
Why hasn't Martin been announced as the 3rd assistant?? Because 4/10-4/13 is a dead period.....no recruiting. BUT.....if he hasn't been hired, he can be making calls/recruiting for Illinois. Guarantee he is recruiting right now. Smart to use this gray area.
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...probably also the reason Gentry hasn't been announced in his support role. 2 guys able to recruit during a dead period because they aren't employees of Illinois yet.
 
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Second and Chalmers said:
Probably because Underwood knows he needs players, he had a lot of his SFA staff around him, and Gentry was young and didn't have a ton of leverage and would take the job.

Having been the Director of Player Development at a major conference school which was wildly successful turning Travis Ford's talented but garbageball-trained leftovers into the #1 offense in the nation, his leverage is different now.

Why have Joey Biggs and Patrick Schulte been announced and Gentry hasn't? It ain't rocket science, Gentry is looking around for an opportunity for a full assistant gig that would be a better springboard for his future.

It sounds like that search has not borne fruit for him. Though you'll forgive me for not celebrating yet when Evans was also a fait accompli pencil-in for the staff until about 12 hours before he wasn't.
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I thought someone posted a picture with his name on the door at Ubben... seems pretty solid.
 
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icengineer

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icengineer
jbutts718 said:
Why hasn't Martin been announced as the 3rd assistant?? Because 4/10-4/13 is a dead period.....no recruiting. BUT.....if he hasn't been hired, he can be making calls/recruiting for Illinois. Guarantee he is recruiting right now. Smart to use this gray area.
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jbutts718 said:
...probably also the reason Gentry hasn't been announced in his support role. 2 guys able to recruit during a dead period because they aren't employees of Illinois yet.
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Standing O for BU if this is what is truly happening!!:hailtotheorange::clappy:

I'm loving the way these guys are operating!


jcgoldie said:
I thought someone posted a picture with his name (Gentry) on the door at Ubben... seems pretty solid.
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Didn't that get taken down immediately after posting? I clicked on the link a few minutes after it was posted but there was no image. Now we may know why.
 
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MadSeason

MadSeason
MadSeason
jbutts718 said:
Why hasn't Martin been announced as the 3rd assistant?? Because 4/10-4/13 is a dead period.....no recruiting. BUT.....if he hasn't been hired, he can be making calls/recruiting for Illinois. Guarantee he is recruiting right now. Smart to use this gray area.
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If this is how it works it's brilliant.
 
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The Galloping Ghost

The Galloping Ghost
Washington, DC
The Galloping Ghost
jbutts718 said:
...probably also the reason Gentry hasn't been announced in his support role. 2 guys able to recruit during a dead period because they aren't employees of Illinois yet.
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I want to live in a world where our coaching staff is smart enough to have pulled this off. Please let this be the case.
 
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mattcoldagelli

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The Transfer Portal
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jbutts718 said:
2 guys able to recruit during a dead period because they aren't employees of Illinois yet.
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Bailey

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It's encouraging to see how much the sentiment has shifted on this board into being a-okay with exploiting the gray areas. If you look at old threads, that was a deal breaker for many.
 
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BLloyd2311

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BLloyd2311
Bailey said:
It's encouraging to see how much the sentiment has shifted on this board into being a-okay with exploiting the gray areas. If you look at old threads, that was a deal breaker for many.
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Four straight years with no tourney will do that to ya😳.
 
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BMo79

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Bailey said:
It's encouraging to see how much the sentiment has shifted on this board into being a-okay with exploiting the gray areas. If you look at old threads, that was a deal breaker for many.
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Well didn't the NCAA tourney kind of tell us, its ok to cheat and cheat big , cause as long as you win no one seems to care that you cheated