Illini Football & CFB 2020

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#26
Cary, IL
Some schools will decide not to hold in person classes and students will be stuck on home doing online "learning."

Other schools will proceed to hold in person classes, with masks, social distancing and other safety precautions in place.

I would bet a large sum of money that by the end of the semester the infection rates of those kids who stayed home and those who returned will not be materially different.
I just spoke with someone familiar with a certain prestigious East coast school's plan moving forward. They were leaning towards online only, not announced yet, then got word that students were now planning "gap years", instead of participating. I can't imagine families not wanting to pay $70,000/year, to stay home and learn online. The school is now trying to figure out a middle ground.
 
#27
I agree with this, unless there's an appetite for rolling the season over to the spring.
i know you had more stuff after this but I talked with somebody in the football world last night actually about this point. I used to think it was a great idea, but then he brought up that nfl quality kids would have no reason to play to risk getting hurt for the draft. Kinda like what we see some guys do for bowl games when they aren’t playing for the championship

It was a good point i hadn’t considered.
 
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i know you had more stuff after this but I talked with somebody in the football world last night actually about this point. I used to think it was a great idea, but then he brought up that nfl quality kids would have no reason to play to risk getting hurt for the draft. Kinda like what we see some guys do for bowl games when they aren’t playing for the championship

It was a good point i hadn’t considered.
Can't argue with that, at least with the definite 1st/2nd rounders. But those kids that are in the 3rd-7th round range who think they can take that next step and move up a round (maybe knock a 45-60 pick into the third round!) may largely choose to play. And even if there's a tradeoff of money in the coffers vs. quality on the field, I suspect the conferences will choose money in the coffers even if it means sacrificing some quality on the field.

Surefire NFL draftees sitting out would probably benefit the Illini, though, and I'd be just fine with that!
 
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I don't see how you can logistically cancel the season and have everyone retain a year of eligibility. We are going to (hopefully LOL) have a 25ish man recruiting class in 2021 and a bunch of seniors. Do you just expand available scholarships to 100 and have more kids from now on? It will affect all teams differently as they have different size senior and recruiting classes. Last year we had a small class and basically no seniors. So you have to also give that team an extra 20 roster spots and let them grab a combo of the remaining recruits and all the kids in the transfer portal?

There are a lot of questions there that could give some teams competitive advantages for a few years until everything normalizes out.
 
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I don't see how you can logistically cancel the season and have everyone retain a year of eligibility. We are going to (hopefully LOL) have a 25ish man recruiting class in 2021 and a bunch of seniors. Do you just expand available scholarships to 100 and have more kids from now on? It will affect all teams differently as they have different size senior and recruiting classes. Last year we had a small class and basically no seniors. So you have to also give that team an extra 20 roster spots and let them grab a combo of the remaining recruits and all the kids in the transfer portal?

There are a lot of questions there that could give some teams competitive advantages for a few years until everything normalizes out.
You could maintain eligibility and allow unlimited scholarships, but require the schools to announce which of it's scholarship players will be eligible before the season starts. That way a kid doesn't lose his ride and can still graduate on time, but he may lose his ability to play the game unless he transfers.
 
#33
Cary, IL
I don't see how you can logistically cancel the season and have everyone retain a year of eligibility. We are going to (hopefully LOL) have a 25ish man recruiting class in 2021 and a bunch of seniors. Do you just expand available scholarships to 100 and have more kids from now on? It will affect all teams differently as they have different size senior and recruiting classes. Last year we had a small class and basically no seniors. So you have to also give that team an extra 20 roster spots and let them grab a combo of the remaining recruits and all the kids in the transfer portal?

There are a lot of questions there that could give some teams competitive advantages for a few years until everything normalizes out.
Maybe go to 100 scholarship players next year, and go down to 95, 90 and 85 in subsequent years? I don't have enough knowledge or normal attrition to know, but I would think that since there would still be only 11 starters on each side of the ball, plus special teams, playing time would be a bigger issue than before, meaning more transfers, and losing an extra 5 scholarship players a season could be done more by player choice than necessary Creaning. :noidea:

edit: I don't like talking like it is a given at this point. Last night, I guessed a 10% chance for a season. I am feeling like that may be aggressive.
 
#34
As others have said - doubt the season will go. If it does it'll be interesting to see how ND manages. If they're going to join a conference as a full member I'd rather it be the B1G than the ACC.
ACC, IMO, has to take care of ND. In last round of major realignment if ND hadn’t been able to cut the independent football/ ACC for all other sports it could have gotten even more interesting for the ACC. They need the stability of ND not going to the B1G, SEC, or worst case combining with Texas somewhere
 
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San Bernardino, Ca.
Some schools will decide not to hold in person classes and students will be stuck on home doing online "learning."

Other schools will proceed to hold in person classes, with masks, social distancing and other safety precautions in place.

I would bet a large sum of money that by the end of the semester the infection rates of those kids who stayed home and those who returned will not be materially different.
My kids are teachers. Online and learning should not be used the same sentence when you are referring to elementary and high school age kids.
 
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Be careful how much you bet. I think the point is that college kids won't really isolate at home or on campus.
I’d still take that bet as well, & don’t think it is particularly close. As the parent of an upcoming college senior...opportunity >>> at college; social contacts >>> at college; bringing kids from all over the country together >>> at college. 20,000 + kids running around together in a few sq. miles with limited adult supervision is much different than hanging out at home witth a few of your high school friends & mom/dad.
 
#45
I’d still take that bet as well, & don’t think it is particularly close. As the parent of an upcoming college senior...opportunity >>> at college; social contacts >>> at college; bringing kids from all over the country together >>> at college. 20,000 + kids running around together in a few sq. miles with limited adult supervision is much different than hanging out at home witth a few of your high school friends & mom/dad.
Just take a look at your kid's Instagram and see where all their friends have been. You'll see "proms", graduation parties, family vacations, etc.
I'd like to act shocked but I'm not. Let me say that my kid didn't get a family vacation, a prom or a graduation party but he's hung out with several who did. By the way, Florida beaches were quite popular in June.
 
#46
Just take a look at your kid's Instagram and see where all their friends have been. You'll see "proms", graduation parties, family vacations, etc.
I'd like to act shocked but I'm not. Let me say that my kid didn't get a family vacation, a prom or a graduation party but he's hung out with several who did. By the way, Florida beaches were quite popular in June.
I don’t disagree with what your saying, what I’m saying is exposure time & people exposed to are also part of the equation. While at college, my son is now living with 2 other guys, In an apartment complex of 100s, spending 5 - 6 hours in a classroom with 20+ other kids, sanitation practices are not in the same universe as his mom... so 15+ weeks that look like that one June week at the Florida beach.
 
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I don’t disagree with what your saying, what I’m saying is exposure time & people exposed to are also part of the equation. While at college, my son is now living with 2 other guys, In an apartment complex of 100s, spending 5 - 6 hours in a classroom with 20+ other kids, sanitation practices are not in the same universe as his mom... so 15+ weeks that look like that one June week at the Florida beach.
did I do something right or wrong cause I was in a classroom max 3 hours a day
 
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I don’t disagree with what your saying, what I’m saying is exposure time & people exposed to are also part of the equation. While at college, my son is now living with 2 other guys, In an apartment complex of 100s, spending 5 - 6 hours in a classroom with 20+ other kids, sanitation practices are not in the same universe as his mom... so 15+ weeks that look like that one June week at the Florida beach.
Viral load affects severity and how fast it spreads for sure. I think the bet referred to positive cases. I think most of us will have been exposed to the virus by the time a vaccine finally gets here. The age group that low risk students fall under are relatively safe.
Why not give the students the choice to attend in person and to play their sport? Don’t yank scholarships if they opt out. I’m not talking putting people in the stands. Im talking about MLB model.
 
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Just heard that an area high school football team was exposed. Longest line of cars I’ve seen yet at our hospital’s drive through testing. We all came out of our houses in June. A) It’s about to get real or B) allergies have sent a bunch of people to get tested. I think both are in play.
 
#50
College age kids are going to catch the virus in large numbers whether they spend the next six months on campus or at home.

I’d rather have my kid at a university that has dozens (or hundreds) of medical professionals dedicated to monitoring/testing the student population daily. For instance: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-co...gwt56pa5xln8pjm&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Admittedly, many universities do not have the resources or ability to do what Cornell and others plan to do. Every school is different. But resourced, responsible schools + responsible kids, are going to result in decent outcomes, I believe.
 
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