Illini Football & CFB 2020

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The key difference between all the other examples and FBS football conferences (and the NFL for that matter) is the gift of time. There was time to prepare if you are a major FBS conference. The planning may have still resulted in a cancelled/postponed season, but it doesn’t appear that they used that time to truly discuss all options.
I guess I disagree that the difference was time. I think we should look at the similarity, and the similarity was a fact-blind bias against reality. MLB is seeing (and trying to play through) their fact-blind bias against reality. Football at all levels is still up in the air. I hope this doesn't result in serious health crises with players, their families, or their communities. It may not, I'm still not convinced it's inevitable, but it's a risk that shouldn't be ignored.

What information did FBS football not have that anyone else had in, say, early June? None, at least if they're reading reliable news sources. We all had the same information. When lots of people were handwringing about opening up in late May/early June, did FBS administrators have less information than governors? Nope, they had the same, and it was biased (the actual facts, that is) towards staying closed. That didn't happen in a lot of places. Almost certainly FBS administrators had less information at the time, but they felt compelled to rely on political leaders, who had politicized a public health crises. Nobody had good information, and everyone pretended they did. Or lied about it. Or lied to themselves about it.

So did FBS have time to prepare, or did they follow the people/institutions that they should be able to trust when making decisions in June about September?

We ALL (on a bureaucratic level, not necessarily individually) dorked it up. And now we win at COVID. Awesome.
 
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Lovie Smith: Good practice. Spirited practice. We realize what's going on with college football. But as I told the team, we'll continue to focus on the things we can control.

Lovie Smith: Like everyone, I've been listening, watching, making plans for all scenarios.

If a player didn't want to play this year, he's opted out already. The guys who are here want to practice, want to play.

We definitely feel like our players are safe.

Lovie Smith: Constant communication with Whitman. He was at practice today. Josh wants to play as much as all of us. No disagreement with how we're doing things.

Lovie Smith: We've made the decision we're going full steam ahead until someone tells us otherwise.

Lovie Smith: "Nothing has changed in the last couple days since we started." If we get more information that says we shouldn't play, then we won't play.

Lovie Smith: If there is reason to pause, then I'd say we pause and not cancel. You'd like for a chance to play football first.

Lovie Smith on other B1G coaches making statements: "We want to play. Is that what I need to do? I'm not one to make statements."

Lovie Smith: "I, like everyone else, wants to play, if you need a statement. ...I don't know how many more times I need to say it."

Lovie Smith: If I didn't think it'd be safe for our guys to be out there. People ask me if I'd let my son play now, my son coaches out there on the field. I think it's safe what we're doing.

Lovie Smith: "I think it's as safe here as anywhere." Points toward UI's capabilities of daily testing.

Lovie Smith says Big Ten coaches have talked about playing a spring season during their conversations the last few months.

"It's how we carry out these plans is what we've had a little trouble with."

Lovie Smith: I try to give the guys as much factual information as possible. Sometimes it's not as much as they want to know.

They read social media. But we try to sort through the facts as much as anything.

Says team had a big meeting with Josh.

Lovie Smith: transfer DT Rod Perry is now on campus

Lovie Smith: Players want to know answers on what would happen if there is no fall season, including eligibility.

"We have to figure out how we handle our rosters moving forward."

Lovie Smith: I never tell the players what they can or can't say on social media. I want it out there, whatever that might be.

Lovie Smith: One more time, players that don't want to play opted out. Players that are here want to play.

Lovie Smith: We're in the Big Ten Conference. We feel good about it. Will do what the conference decides.

"I'm going to hope we continue to practice and advance to the next stage playing in the Big Ten."

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I have a friend who is a teacher in Indiana. Her district was telling teachers in April to be prepared to start the school year virtually just in case. It that point it was purely hypothetical but has now come to fruition.

Point being, if the hypothetical could be had for a little school system, how could a multimillion dollar entity not have done the same?
Agreed as my wife works for our local Elementary and we have teacher friends in 3 other schools. All have been preparing for this for months
 
I'm in Europe right now. You cannot go anywhere public without a mask, and you don't see a single person out in public without a mask. I don't mean walking down the street 20 feet from the nearest human, but even then, as you approach each other, people leave a path in order to maintain at least six feet. But inside any public place (unless/until you're eating), 100%, not an exaggeration, have a mask. And it obviously seems to be working.

Not trying to get political. Just today's public health announcement from a non-public health professional. Won't speak to the science, but the anecdotal evidence is strong.
We all know Americans are stubborn (selfish) as h*ll. After 9/11 we complained about the security that allowed such a tragedy. 3 months after we upped the protocol, we complained about having to wait in security lines. Our society as a whole wants everyone to be safer, more polite, cleaner and healthier, as long as they don't have to sacrifice the way they live their life:doh:
 
I guess I disagree that the difference was time. I think we should look at the similarity, and the similarity was a fact-blind bias against reality. MLB is seeing (and trying to play through) their fact-blind bias against reality. Football at all levels is still up in the air. I hope this doesn't result in serious health crises with players, their families, or their communities. It may not, I'm still not convinced it's inevitable, but it's a risk that shouldn't be ignored.

What information did FBS football not have that anyone else had in, say, early June? None, at least if they're reading reliable news sources. We all had the same information. When lots of people were handwringing about opening up in late May/early June, did FBS administrators have less information than governors? Nope, they had the same, and it was biased (the actual facts, that is) towards staying closed. That didn't happen in a lot of places. Almost certainly FBS administrators had less information at the time, but they felt compelled to rely on political leaders, who had politicized a public health crises. Nobody had good information, and everyone pretended they did. Or lied about it. Or lied to themselves about it.

So did FBS have time to prepare, or did they follow the people/institutions that they should be able to trust when making decisions in June about September?

We ALL (on a bureaucratic level, not necessarily individually) dorked it up. And now we win at COVID. Awesome.
100% agree that we all messed it up and are in a bad spot. However seeing how NCAAB, NBA, NHL, MLB had everything either interrupted by the virus or shut down completely should’ve shown the administrators how vulnerable football would be to this virus. A wait and see approach is the easiest one to take, but it’s been shown that we can no longer operate with that type of mindset. There has to be planning for any likely outcome, and football had more time to plan for those outcomes than the sports that had their seasons interrupted.

I still think there’s not much that could’ve been done when it comes to making football safer amidst this virus but this is turning into more of a mess than it should’ve been.

Hindsight is always 20/20.
 
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We all know Americans are stubborn (selfish) as h*ll. After 9/11 we complained about the security that allowed such a tragedy. 3 months after we upped the protocol, we complained about having to wait in security lines. Our society as a whole wants everyone to be safer, more polite, cleaner and healthier, as long as they don't have to sacrifice the way they live their life:doh:
I'm in California. No one goes anywhere without a mask. Anywhere....period.
 
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However seeing how NCAAB, NBA, NHL, MLB had everything either interrupted by the virus or shut down completely should’ve shown the administrators how vulnerable football would be to this virus. A wait and see approach is the easiest one to take, but it’s been shown that we can no longer operate with that type of mindset.
Wait, are you saying the pandemic won't just disappear one day like some sort of a miracle? How preposterous.

Today could be that day! And if not today, perhaps tomorrow? :whistle:
 
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