As of 9:14 the game hadn't been recorded on Kenpom yet so what you are seeing is the effect of other games around the country.
Illinois 85, IUPUI 77 POSTGAME
As of 9:14 the game hadn't been recorded on Kenpom yet so what you are seeing is the effect of other games around the country.
Your right ....he might not be the best at any one thing....but could lterally be the
best all around players (offense, defense, rebound, taking care of the ball) ever at ILL.
I suspect we will likely see foul trouble every now and then again for awhile. I also predict he will clip someone with an elbow when trying to protect a rebound
Have to disagree. Any win, no matter how ugly, beats getting blown out of the gym.
I know MF and MM can play better than tonight. We need these two to step UP!!
Liked DJW seeing a few minutes on the floor. I really hope he stays and just work on improving little things and reducing mistakes.
T.Lucas is playing like a freshman, which means more minutes for JT, which means trouble for us.
Liked DJW seeing a few minutes on the floor. I really hope he stays and just work on improving little things and reducing mistakes.
T.Lucas is playing like a freshman, which means more minutes for JT, which means trouble for us.
BirdDog9048
The Chief Lives
- Chicago, IL
Pretty sure the 1-and-1 you're talking about was Tate, not Malcolm. Also, Malcolm averaged 23.3 points over the last week... not sure how you can call that 3rd best player.
KenPom shouldn't change much. He had us by ten and we won by eight. Should lead to a small drop but nothing significant. As you stated, our rank will depend on what other teams do as well.
Been trying to tell everybody they aren't going to be this darkhorse. They will have flashes because of a talented starting five, but there is minimal depth off their bench.
Agreed. The only one close to him is Black. I can't even think of another guy who could be considered close to Hill.
illinitrav
- NW Suburbs
We must have been watching a different game. Illinois doesn't win that game without Hill. Yeah he had that dumb turnover that led to the dunk but that was a bit fluky. Regardless, yes he should have slowed it down instead of trying to push it.
Also, I think you're getting that missed 1 and 1 confused with Tate.
Ok, probably not correct to state Leron is our best player as fact. But I really think he's making it a conversation. Maybe it's just because he's SO much better at being a big than any of our other bigs- so maybe it's more MVP than best player...
No need to argue it. I'm glad we have a second great player.
socalini
- So Cali
How many more "WTF was that" losses do we get?
Turnovers haunted us in the first half but the defense was atrocious in both. They made some tough shots but we give opposing teams too much confidence and it shows in their shooting %. It's ridiculous that we give each sub 100 team hope that they can beat us on our home floor. Sure, we don't prepare for these types of teams as well as top 100 teams but we can't play as if the game has already been decided by vegas. We have a low floor and these guys need to play hard to prove it to other bad teams that they can't hang with us. We come out with so much more energy against good opponents so we know that decent defense is possible but it needs to be like that every night. I'm glad that it was an ugly game because the team needs as many reality checks as possible. I don't blame every player though, our frontcourt needs to be as tough as Black but so far they've been the polar opposite.
Black compares favorably to Draymond Green actually.
They both missed one. Tate's was later though. I meant 2nd (in praise of Leron), not "3nd"
It's simply looked at as a win by the selection committee. The selection committee doesn't take margin of victory into consideration like the BCS.
illinoisfan11
- Peoria, IL
UI looked embarrassingly unprepared again tonight. Thank goodness for Malcolm and Leron. We may have lost by 15+ without them.
Side note: I've seen more than enough guards banking in key 3s against us. First Johnson from Winthrop and again tonight. So annoying.
Side note: I've seen more than enough guards banking in key 3s against us. First Johnson from Winthrop and again tonight. So annoying.
The John Groce philosophy on offense is not to employ an offense.... same with defense.
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
Nope, 9 boards
IlliniFan12
- Cedar Falls, IA
From what I've witnessed through 10 games, DJW and AJ appear to be about equally turnover-prone, but DJW has an upside and smoothness to his game that AJ cannot seem to match at this point in his career. Advantage: DJW
Get used to it, a lot of the B1G conference games will be like this one and if we win them, it's good.
That is the one thing I like about this game. It gives the team so positive experience in a close game. That confidence from winning a close game can help in the Big.
Been a die hard fan my whole life. No need to go there. I'm just upset/frustrated and rightfully so. Yeah maybe it's an overreaction, obviously wins are always better. I'm just tired of never showing up against bad teams.
Sorry if I offended you. I probably won't feel this way tomorrow.