Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

And also, how does Michigan have it figured out? Wisconsin? Penn State? All of these schools are in/above our league academically.

As an alum, the school’s academic rep is important to me. If we become Virginia/Berkeley/Michigan in terms of academics then I could see these recruiting situations happening and be more okay with it. But we’re a notch below that still, so it makes the “academics over athletics” pill hard to swallow.
Took the words out of my mouth. How does Michigan, Berkeley and Virginia do it?
 
I looked up wisconsin, Iowa and Purdues' (our peers in the west) admissions standards and recruiting over the last 10+ years. We all have very similar academic standards and the only team to crack the top 25 according to 247 is Purdue in 2019.

Illinois (and most of the conference) will always be fighting an uphill Battle in recruiting but at least we aren't the only team with this problem.
 
Accepting 5-10 kids per year doesn’t affect admission standards. It doesn’t change Median scores or top 75%ile scores. Michigan, Virginia, and Nd allow athletics to count for something more in the whole person aspect of recruitment than we do. California is a different animal altogether. We are not in the running for a considerable number of difference maker athletes. Jeff thomas was one example. Cj Dixon and jadon Thompson this year. We have had academic redshirts and the like. Every coach knows these standards and from what I’ve been told, Wisconsin has similar hurdles. It’s not insurmountable to build a solid perennially bowl eligible team. But it is insurmountable to build a national championship team.
 
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Out of curiosity I looked up the admissions standards. The 25th percentile for ACT score is 26 and Average GPA is 3.71. If that's correct, it's hard to find big ten caliber players that can meet that requirement that the Michigan's and Notre Dames aren't already scooping up
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The admission standards for revenue sport athletes is dramatically different than those for regular students.
 
The faculty at these schools "recruit" (I was one of them recruited from the other end of the earth). Those of us who applied at schools like UoI, were attracted by the "brains" at the school (faculty).

FB is not any different.
I think you are missing the point. If Urban Meyer was our coach, the admission office isn't letting Jadon Thompson in. Urban would prefer to be at Ohio State where they let anyone in that can help them win football games. It's a competitive disadvantage. As stated, it doesn't matter to the academic reputation of the university because there are a handful a year. Reasonable people can think we should not let them in...but it's a disadvantage when playing universities that do.
 
I'm not liking how everyone is saying there is a competitive disadvantage because the kid didn't enroll here. He had offers from other Big Ten schools including Michigan and didn't go there either. So who knows what happened. I hope he makes the best of his time at Cincinnati. Move on and do a better job at recruiting in-state talent. We shouldn't rely on one kid to make or break our in-state recruiting class.
 
If he had grade problems in high school, he would have them at UofI as well. He'd be there for 1 year and then have to transfer.
 
THAT is known to one and all. Anyone who signs as a coach at UoI KNOWS that. Do not complain and use it as an excuse. iF one thinks it is a disadvantage the do NOT sign as a UoI coach.
It is a disadvantage. It can be changed. If you don't care enough about football to want an even playing field, you will keep getting what you have been getting for most of the last 35 years. It's not an excuse. The staff is not going to quit working.. but why make their job more difficult than it already is.
 
A certain big-time recruit will not be signing with UGA tomorrow...

Still could sign but not tomorrow which is making for uneasy times in Athens.

One thing I can say with the utter-most confidence is that if Illinois pulls off this Broderick Jones signing I will personally crap my pants 🔸️💩🔹️
 
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It is a disadvantage. It can be changed. If you don't care enough about football to want an even playing field, you will keep getting what you have been getting for most of the last 35 years. It's not an excuse. The staff is not going to quit working.. but why make their job more difficult than it already is.
Yes, "it can be changed". Totally agree. That is the core to enable change.

But

Admissions strikes again!
is not.

Is my argument.
 
The admission standards for revenue sport athletes is dramatically different than those for regular students.
Exactly! This has been my complaint for years. The student athletes do not have to meet the same admission requirements, so why do we not just follow the NCAA standard. The U of I along with 7 or 8 other power5 schools have set a higher standard for admittance than the NCAA requires for no other reason than they choose to. It makes absolutely no sense! It has zero bearing on anything associated with the schools academic standing or anything related to the academic side when they are admitted or after they're in school The athletes are not held to the same standard as other students, so stop with the self-imposed requirements higher than the NCAA standard:frustrated:
 
THAT is known to one and all. Anyone who signs as a coach at UoI KNOWS that. Do not complain and use it as an excuse. iF one thinks it is a disadvantage the do NOT sign as a UoI coach.
to this point, several top Coaches have turned the job down because The university would not accept the standard of accepting a handful of students without university qualifying grades.
 
I'm not liking how everyone is saying there is a competitive disadvantage because the kid didn't enroll here. He had offers from other Big Ten schools including Michigan and didn't go there either. So who knows what happened. I hope he makes the best of his time at Cincinnati. Move on and do a better job at recruiting in-state talent. We shouldn't rely on one kid to make or break our in-state recruiting class.
This isn’t about Thompson. This is part of what we have as a program. We won’t win national championships if we can’t recruit consistent with major programs. But we aren’t at the point of winning national titles. We can be as good as Iowa or Wisconsin, so we still have work to do
 
2020 class ranked 90th and no recruits from Illinois. Im confident a team can win with 3 star players with the right coaching staff, Im not confident we have the right coaching staff to coach these players up.
 
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I am hoping the 2 new defensive line coaches are above average at coaching up and top notch recruiters.
 
If he had grade problems in high school, he would have them at UofI as well. He'd be there for 1 year and then have to transfer.
Not true. The tutoring one gets at U of I can make all of the difference in the world. The distractions in one"s neighborhood will also, no longer be present. The fact that a young person may not have taken grades seriously until their junior year of high school can impact situations, too.