Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl. We ate lobster, drank Piña Coladas. At sunset we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over and over and over...
“During mating, the male sea otter grips the female’s nose with his teeth while grabbing her chest with his forelegs in order to hang on.” Any chance you got pictures?
 
“During mating, the male sea otter grips the female’s nose with his teeth while grabbing her chest with his forelegs in order to hang on.” Any chance you got pictures?
I'm very much a nose man for that very reason. /s
 
I'm sorry but you lost me with this. Our backups are not as talented as Vonte Davis and Simeon Rice. That is why they are backups. They will be more ready to play as redshirt seniors over true freshmen. They need to build muscle and adapt to the college level. The best way for EVERYONE is to do that in practice. Otherwise we are back to winning three games a year.
The QB room was TERRIBLE when Rod got here. He snagged Matt since he was the best option at the time. IW and Spann are great examples of where we are at. Much better talent than we have had, just too young currently.
Lovie killed the depth of this roster and it's just now getting close to filling back up....close. It's about the talent on the roster.
Lovie killed the depth?????? Specifically QB depth was decimated long before he arrivedhe arrived.
 
Lovie killed the depth?????? Specifically QB depth was decimated long before he arrivedhe arrived.
You are taking my post the wrong way. I am not talking about talent, I am talking about depth as in class balance. I am not saying he was right or wrong, I am saying that the depth has not been there and wont until some of these classes he has brought in develop.
The QB room is the best example. He came in and there were kids with experience. But not talent. They gone. Now the kids they have recruited have talent, but not developed yet. That is why there is a big drop off from starter to backup. It wont be that way soon
 
“During mating, the male sea otter grips the female’s nose with his teeth while grabbing her chest with his forelegs in order to hang on.” Any chance you got pictures?
This post wins the Internet today. I nearly spit out my coffee. Well done sir!
 
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Good speed with power and some wiggle. He can catch the ball. Illinois had better get on this kid. Very impressed with this kid. Six two, two eighteen and he is only going to get bigger and stronger.
I don’t know if he’s a kid the coaches want or not, but seeing offers from 3 other B10 schools, esp Minnesota, makes me question why we haven’t at least offered an instate kid.
 
I haven't been able to respond on here in awhile. But i think we have some big overreactions going on. Yes the 2020 class is disappointing but i like about 8 players we got more than other players we have currently at positions. We said we needed D-Line help and we landed 3 really nice prospects. We needed a slot and a hybrid ad we got two players with legit speed.
 
you feel me, dog?
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I haven't been able to respond on here in awhile. But i think we have some big overreactions going on. Yes the 2020 class is disappointing but i like about 8 players we got more than other players we have currently at positions. We said we needed D-Line help and we landed 3 really nice prospects. We needed a slot and a hybrid ad we got two players with legit speed.
This. Need to stick the landing (transfer portal) and make big strides with our 2021 class. As many others have said, that class is critical. Also, at minimum, we need to establish a beachhead with in-state recruiting. Hopefully, far better than minimum.
 
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Use this information as you want, but i'm tired of the narrative that we don't have any talent after the 2020 season. As you can we we may not have a ton of top tear talent but i think we have formed solid depth. 2021 WR will be an issue but 3 of our top receivers last year were transfers and that position tends to be easier to find than most on the transfer market.

201920202021201920202021
QBPeters- 96.84Peters- 96.84Williams- 94.79DEBetiku- 98.84Gay- 81.83Davis- 85.67
QB2Robinson- 80.08Williams- 94.79Spann- 85.66DEShobongo- 77.50Coleman- 85.99Coleman- 85.99
RBEpstien- 84.21Brown- 84.03Brown- 84.03DECarney- 86.95Carney- 86.96Randolf- 87.01
RB2Corbin- 82.44Epstein- 84.21Love- 88.44DTWoods- 80.05Woods- 80.05Woods- 80.05
WRBehbe- 93.14Behbe- 93.14Washington- 83.23DTMilan- 84.93Avery- 91.74Avery- 91.75
WRSmalling- 88.68Smalling- 88.68Frenchie- 88.68DLOliver- 80.99Randolf- 87.01Newton- 85.19
WRSindey- 93.60Sindey- 93.60Campbell- 85LBHansen- 80.35Hansen- 80.35Smith- 84.72
WRNavarro- 70.00Navarro- 70.00Navarro- 70.00LBHarding- 85.49Cooper- 90.27Cooper- 90.27
TEBarker- 83.14Ford- 97.53Ford- 97.53LBEifler- 93.68Eifler- 93.68Gardner- 84.20
TE2Williams- 83.37Barker- 83.14Barker- 83.14LBTolson- 85.81Tolson- 85.81Tolson- 85.83
LTLowe- 83.65Lowe- 83.65Pearl- 84.70LBDegroot- 80.25Barnes- 83.90Barnes- 83.91
LGGreen- 88.01Green- 88.01Green- 88.01CBHobbs- 81.43Hobbs- 81.43Beason- 95.64
CKramer- 80.31Kramer- 80.31Tyler- 84.11CBWitherspoon- 70.00Beason- 95.64Witherspoon- 70.00
RGPettibone- 96.96Brown- 89.44Brown- 89.45SAdams- 84.72Adams- 84.72Martin- 83.36
RTPalcho- 83.19Palcho- 83.19Slaughter- 85.39SBrown- 82.94Brown- 82.94Brown- 82.94
OLCerney- 82.92Cerney- 82.92Griffin- 84.24DBGreen- 81.84Witherspoon- 70.00Ware- 82.48
AVG
86.03​
87.09​
86.02​
83.48​
85.16​
84.93​
 
I haven't been able to respond on here in awhile. But i think we have some big overreactions going on. Yes the 2020 class is disappointing but i like about 8 players we got more than other players we have currently at positions. We said we needed D-Line help and we landed 3 really nice prospects. We needed a slot and a hybrid ad we got two players with legit speed.
Finally someone else with some sense instead of thinking the sky is falling in 2020 because we didn't get top freshmen. Freshmen rarely impact a team anyways.
 
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Finally someone else with some sense instead of thinking the sky is falling in 2020 because we didn't get top freshmen. Freshmen rarely impact a team anyways.
That's what I love about these freshman, I get older and they stay the same age.

Seriously, you realize they are on the team more than one year and likely turn into high impact upperclassmen? Missing out one year isn't the end of the world, but so far we only hit on those guys one year out of Lovie's tenure.
 
Finally someone else with some sense instead of thinking the sky is falling in 2020 because we didn't get top freshmen. Freshmen rarely impact a team anyways.
I've read posts concerned about 2020 due to perceived "lucky" wins, and I've read posts disappointed with the last recruiting class, but I don't recall seeing any posts like you are describing, so I guess everyone on here has some sense. Maybe the otter mating talk has you, or me, confused.
 
Finally someone else with some sense instead of thinking the sky is falling in 2020 because we didn't get top freshmen. Freshmen rarely impact a team anyways.
Of course not landing a top guy was disappointing but ill wager a steak dinner that we will have another shot at a guy we missed in the next two years. Some of these guys will transfer and we have relationships built. And I'm told we are close to landing a couple 2021 kids. Watch out for dedrick smith, keith cooper and kretuz. I think will land a few kids out of GA this class as well. Were going to land one of the three RB's in Irving, Shaw and Johnson. I think we will land one of the trinity/ESL WR's. I think were also going to land Mclaurin and Barlev. I also think we will make a push for the Chicago safety's. Twangers heard some rumblings of some Dallas kids looking at us as well. Let's just see how some things play out.
 
Oh trust me i get it. I mean just look at Illinois twitter during a basketball loss. I just think the football program is in a much better place than it was when Lovie took over. I know there are things we would like to change or do differently (Mcgee, Nickerson, Byrd, recruiting misses). But our floor is so much higher than it was a couple years ago. We have backups now that were actual recruits and most of our recruiting classes are filled with prospects with other P5 offers. The 2020 team will prolly win 7 games and the 2021 will win 5-6. From where we were a couple years ago we actually have a solid floor. Also we have some semblance of class balance and natural progression of recruits. We can actually red-shirt players again and play them when they are ready instead of throwing them into the fire at 19.
 
Oh trust me i get it. I mean just look at Illinois twitter during a basketball loss. I just think the football program is in a much better place than it was when Lovie took over. I know there are things we would like to change or do differently (Mcgee, Nickerson, Byrd, recruiting misses). But our floor is so much higher than it was a couple years ago. We have backups now that were actual recruits and most of our recruiting classes are filled with prospects with other P5 offers. The 2020 team will prolly win 7 games and the 2021 will win 5-6. From where we were a couple years ago we actually have a solid floor. Also we have some semblance of class balance and natural progression of recruits. We can actually red-shirt players again and play them when they are ready instead of throwing them into the fire at 19.
Yeah, but the problem is Indiana, Minnesota, Nebraska and Purdue are in a much better place than when Lovie took over, too.

Lovie is among the highest compensated coaches in the country, and was given one of the highest assistant coach salary pools when he was hired. Disappointment is an appropriate reaction to the Lovie Smith era so far. Seven wins next year would be a big improvement, but I don't see the four probable Big Ten wins you're seeing.
 
Yeah, but the problem is Indiana, Minnesota, Nebraska and Purdue
Let’s look at this:

Purdue is roughly in the same place. The last 3 seasons 6,7,4 wins. This is pretty common for where they have been this decade. Maybe a little better.

Nebraska was winning roughly 9 games a year with Pelini, when Lovie arrived, haven’t qualified for a bowl game in the last 3 years. Way worse.

Indiana isn’t in our division. This argument gies hand in hand with Michigan state getting worse.

Minnesota is roughly a little better. Fleck 11, 7, 5 wins. Before fleck: 9,6,8,8,6. Maybe a little better.


add to this: Northwestern has, gotten worse, Wisconsin has gotten worse, and Iowa has stayed the same.

my argument is that not much has changed

except, we have gotten competitive in big ten games. Regardless of outcomes, every game was close and winnable. And we did this with lower ranked and younger talent than all of our competition.
 
Let’s look at this:

Purdue is roughly in the same place. The last 3 seasons 6,7,4 wins. This is pretty common for where they have been this decade. Maybe a little better.

Nebraska was winning roughly 9 games a year with Pelini, when Lovie arrived, haven’t qualified for a bowl game in the last 3 years. Way worse.

Indiana isn’t in our division. This argument gies hand in hand with Michigan state getting worse.

Minnesota is roughly a little better. Fleck 11, 7, 5 wins. Before fleck: 9,6,8,8,6. Maybe a little better.


add to this: Northwestern has, gotten worse, Wisconsin has gotten worse, and Iowa has stayed the same.

my argument is that not much has changed

except, we have gotten competitive in big ten games. Regardless of outcomes, every game was close and winnable. And we did this with lower ranked and younger talent than all of our competition.
Sneaky John Ekey was wisely not comparing records, because if he did that, as you have done, he could not say that Illinois has improved since Lovie came here.

You are deluding yourself if you don't think Minnesota, Nebraska and Purdue are recruiting much better than when Lovie got here. By the way, Mike Riley was coaching at Nebraska when Lovie took over, and Nebraska is a 2020 top 25 pre-season SP+ team. Wisconsin is top 10, just coming off a Rose Bowl. I don't see how you can say they have gotten worse.

I believe Minnesota just had their most wins ever in a single season. And you say they are "maybe a little better?"

Northwestern just had a class with an average rating of .8650, which was preceded by a class with an average rating of .8599. These might be their two highest rated classes ever, I don't know.

Indiana is on the schedule this year, not Michigan State. Do you see four probable Big Ten wins on the schedule?

Look, I'm not arguing that recruiting hasn't improved under Lovie. I'm just saying it hasn't happened in a vacuum.
 
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