Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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I can understand trustees not supporting Beckman because even at the time that hire was questionable at best. I also see why they would want to hire a black coach because that could give us a competitive advantage all things considered. It seems a little ridiculous for some trustees to only approve a black coach regardless of qualification though (a nfl RB coach doesn't exactly make you qualified to be HC at a P5).

With that being said at the time lovie Smith was a homerun hire and I would have picked him every day of the week over pj fleck or any other up and coming coach during that time. Whitman made the right hires, unfortunately it didn't turn out exactly how we all wanted it too.
Totally agree - Whitman pulled a rabbit out of a hat in hiring Lovie. Just because it may not work out doesn't mean he didn't make the right decision at the time; even world class poker players lose a lot of hands. At the same time, you can't deny that Fleck has so far done a great job at Minny. It may not last, but so far the results are very good
 
South Carolina
If the staff land 4 and 5 star recruits out of Georgia I can totally agree with this statement.
I don't think you understand, the staff is specifically targeting 3* only. They want nothing to do with 4 or 5
 
Iowa City
My cousin in Bettendorf said that is what Iowa basically does now. They have had much more success with 3* guys than the 4* and 5* guys, who basically just caused trouble for them.
I think that is more of a myth. Iowa fans got high hopes with some huge classes with 4 and 5 starts around 2004 and 2005. Injuries and transfers didn't turn out like they wanted so the narrative was, KF did better developing the 3* guys. They have brought in plenty of high-end talent though. You can make a lot of 3* skill position players look great when you have a ton of talent on the O and D lines.
 
Cincinnati, OH
My cousin in Bettendorf said that is what Iowa basically does now. They have had much more success with 3* guys than the 4* and 5* guys, who basically just caused trouble for them.
I understand that their staff goes by their own evaluations instead of website rankings but let's make this an exercise via 247 rankings of their 2012 commitments through current day:

2012
Faith Ekakitie (1st overall pick in CFL in 2017)
Jaleel Johnson (4th round pick by Vikings)
Ryan Ward (role player, never played professionally)
*Also of note, all three of these guys came from Illinois.

2013
None

2014
None

2015
James Daniels (2nd round pick by the Bears)

2016
None

2017
AJ Epenesa (2nd round pick by the Bills)
Mark Kallenberger (role player, currently on Iowa roster)
Tristan Wirfs (1st round pick by the Bucs)

2018
None

2019
Jestin Jacobs (redshirted)
Ezra Miller (redshirted)
Tyler Endres (redshirted)


So in the last eight recruiting classes, they signed nine 4* recruits and one 5* recruit, which resulted in a 1st round draft pick, two 2nd round draft picks, a 4th round draft pick, one CFL player, two role players, and three redshirted freshmen that are too early to tell. I'd say your cousin needs to reconsider these thoughts.
 
I understand that their staff goes by their own evaluations instead of website rankings but let's make this an exercise via 247 rankings of their 2012 commitments through current day:

2012
Faith Ekakitie (1st overall pick in CFL in 2017)
Jaleel Johnson (4th round pick by Vikings)
Ryan Ward (role player, never played professionally)
*Also of note, all three of these guys came from Illinois.

2013
None

2014
None

2015
James Daniels (2nd round pick by the Bears)

2016
None

2017
AJ Epenesa (2nd round pick by the Bills)
Mark Kallenberger (role player, currently on Iowa roster)
Tristan Wirfs (1st round pick by the Bucs)

2018
None

2019
Jestin Jacobs (redshirted)
Ezra Miller (redshirted)
Tyler Endres (redshirted)


So in the last eight recruiting classes, they signed nine 4* recruits and one 5* recruit, which resulted in a 1st round draft pick, two 2nd round draft picks, a 4th round draft pick, one CFL player, two role players, and three redshirted freshmen that are too early to tell. I'd say your cousin needs to reconsider these thoughts.
I feel like (9) 4*, and (1) 5* recruits is a low number for a program as successful as Iowa. I really feel like the numbers you have provided support the cousin's insight.
How many of these high star recruits are the other Big 10 programs bringing in?
 
I understand that their staff goes by their own evaluations instead of website rankings but let's make this an exercise via 247 rankings of their 2012 commitments through current day:

2012
Faith Ekakitie (1st overall pick in CFL in 2017)
Jaleel Johnson (4th round pick by Vikings)
Ryan Ward (role player, never played professionally)
*Also of note, all three of these guys came from Illinois.

2013
None

2014
None

2015
James Daniels (2nd round pick by the Bears)

2016
None

2017
AJ Epenesa (2nd round pick by the Bills)
Mark Kallenberger (role player, currently on Iowa roster)
Tristan Wirfs (1st round pick by the Bucs)

2018
None

2019
Jestin Jacobs (redshirted)
Ezra Miller (redshirted)
Tyler Endres (redshirted)


So in the last eight recruiting classes, they signed nine 4* recruits and one 5* recruit, which resulted in a 1st round draft pick, two 2nd round draft picks, a 4th round draft pick, one CFL player, two role players, and three redshirted freshmen that are too early to tell. I'd say your cousin needs to reconsider these thoughts.
From 2012-2019 they have only (10), 4* or 5* players. If they have around 20 person classes each year, that breaks down to (160) 3* players or lower.
 
I use it as a confidence meter for the recruit. Green= like our chances, yellow= mutual interest and were in the mix, Orange= in the mix and red=not likely.
Out of curiosity, why not capture this in a live document, such as Google docs? This allows us to track it without waiting for a snapshot update.
 
'burbs
Is Kevon Billingsley someone we have a chance with? Impressive offer list and has reopened his recruitment
 
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