Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Well this thread is off the rails. I'll check in a few days. Too many posters accused of being misinformed.
Just not much else to talk about in here lol. I agree it’s pointless to argue with people who aren’t gonna change their opinion. But there just isn’t much to talk about with no visits or anything. I just want to see us win games regardless of who it’s with. Go illini.
 
It is literally like an advertisement. Yes. You get an opportunity to talk to your in state coaching staff. I have a pretty good feeling they would send an agenda when coaches contact them. THEY LITERALLY GAVE IN STATE COACHES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. They do not need to post their whole agenda on Twitter. You guys must be on the Lovie needs to go train or something. Or the Illinois isn't gonna be very good this year train.
Nick Saban, Jimbo Fisher, Lincoln Riley, etc personal call and invite Coaches they want to attend whatever they want. You are speaking as if Illinois kids are going to major universirties and need to be excited that Illinois staff is willing to talk to them. SMH
 
It’s Powell’s fault like I said from the Beginning and yes he can tweet negative just like he tweet positive!! Especially If he felt a certain way about it. Hell with the BS I posted plus the refusal to hire Terry Hawthorne he should technically ban Illinois. Yet he still post in support of Lovie but, you keep posting BS pushing a false narrative!!
Wait, I thought Hawthorne didn't want to move to Champaign. Are you saying our staff turned him down?
 
It is literally like an advertisement. Yes. You get an opportunity to talk to your in state coaching staff. I have a pretty good feeling they would send an agenda when coaches contact them. THEY LITERALLY GAVE IN STATE COACHES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. They do not need to post their whole agenda on Twitter. You guys must be on the Lovie needs to go train or something. Or the Illinois isn't gonna be very good this year train.
And this pretty much shows the problem. Personal calls, texts or emails would be ideal. Fun thread though
 
It is literally like an advertisement. Yes. You get an opportunity to talk to your in state coaching staff. I have a pretty good feeling they would send an agenda when coaches contact them. THEY LITERALLY GAVE IN STATE COACHES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP. They do not need to post their whole agenda on Twitter. You guys must be on the Lovie needs to go train or something. Or the Illinois isn't gonna be very good this year train.
What kind of a relationship can you expect to build in a zoom meeting with maybe 20 or 30 or 50 other coaches?

Why must I be on the Lovie must go train? Because I'm asking insiders if the staff is butt hurt about the lack of attendance at the zoom meetings? If they are that sensitive, it seems that they are in the wrong business.
 
I think it’s realistic for coaches to want to build a relationship with the flagship school. If they don’t want to attend then that’s fine but don’t cry to others that Illinois isn’t putting forth a effort. And it wasn’t miles meeting, it was bellamys. One school showed up, I work for a recruiting service and @moggs3 confirmed the same thing. One school showed up to bellamys zoom meeting. And you are misinformed. They were set invites to the meeting through their AD and directly to the coaches. The ones on twitter were not the invites sent.
I'm not an insider. I get all my information here. Any misinformation came from you and @moggs3.
 
If only one school showed up there has to be a disconnect somewhere. Out of 500 plus high schools in Illinois, only one show up? Who are we kidding. May just be results of hiring a Texas person to improve relations with Illinois Coaches. Not saying anything negative, just pointing out facts. If I took a job in Texas I wouldn't know where to start. Part of the process.
This is weak. I know she is from texas but I am sure she is capable of sending out a zoom meeting invite to coaches. The interview I posted on here, she said Lovie told her step 1 was to connect with Illinois. They put the call out, the ILL coaches didn't show up. Put it to bed
 
Two most interesting things coming out of this discussion

(1) Jimbo spent more time at ESTL than Lovie. I know he is hands off but the man has to recognize he still has some celebrity factor and he needs to be present in key recruitments. A drivable school with years of P5 talent should be worth his time

(2) Zoom call with “all” ILL HS invited and 1 attends?!?! Would have been better if zero then you could at least feel invites got lost or something. This sounds like one of those ideas that are good in theory for someone young and new but falls apart in practice. HS coaches are people too with commitments, jobs, families and you need something to entice them to spend an hour or two of their time. Probably would have needed some sort of innovative virtual coaches Clinic with some marquee speakers or topics.
 
I'm not an insider. I get all my information here. Any misinformation came from you and @moggs3.
I thought we were done with this??? I am friends with the I-West coach. He said he was the only coach that attended the zoom meeting for Bellamy and they talked for about 40 minutes and build a relationship. And idk...having all your in state coaches in a zoom meeting seems like a pretty good time to sell your program to me. They are sure doing something right in FL. They would not do the right things in FL and the wrong things in IL unless there was a good reason. What misinformation have I personally brought? I'm no insider. I hear things every now and then and share when I do.
 
Two most interesting things coming out of this discussion

(1) Jimbo spent more time at ESTL than Lovie. I know he is hands off but the man has to recognize he still has some celebrity factor and he needs to be present in key recruitments. A drivable school with years of P5 talent should be worth his time

(2) Zoom call with “all” ILL HS invited and 1 attends?!?! Would have been better if zero then you could at least feel invites got lost or something. This sounds like one of those ideas that are good in theory for someone young and new but falls apart in practice. HS coaches are people too with commitments, jobs, families and you need something to entice them to spend an hour or two of their time. Probably would have needed some sort of innovative virtual coaches Clinic with some marquee speakers or topics.
Those are very interesting. And I am not saying that Title is wrong about some things he is saying. But this is a two way street in state. Lovie and the Illini staff need to put more of an effort in, but the high school coaches haven't made it easy on him. Especially Sunkett and Chicago coaches.
 
Absolutely! Twice. I’m sure they have their reasons.
What position was it for? I was all for Hawthorne or Chris James in staff. Trust me I do not think the staff has done great in state and the way they went about things. Not all on them though either.
 
I thought we were done with this??? I am friends with the I-West coach. He said he was the only coach that attended the zoom meeting for Bellamy and they talked for about 40 minutes and build a relationship. And idk...having all your in state coaches in a zoom meeting seems like a pretty good time to sell your program to me. They are sure doing something right in FL. They would not do the right things in FL and the wrong things in IL unless there was a good reason. What misinformation have I personally brought? I'm no insider. I hear things every now and then and share when I do.
I didn't appreciate your assumption that I must be on the Lovie must go train, so I felt I had to reply. I agree having all the in state coaches on for a zoom call would be great for Illinois, I just don't see what benefit the high school coaches would get out of it. Out of respect for your contributions to this board, to answer your question, @Positive illini fan has said that this post of yours was misinformation (in other words, this was not the invitation sent):
Looks like a pretty open invite to me. Must not have been interested.View attachment 6143
 
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This is weak. I know she is from texas but I am sure she is capable of sending out a zoom meeting invite to coaches. The interview I posted on here, she said Lovie told her step 1 was to connect with Illinois. They put the call out, the ILL coaches didn't show up. Put it to bed
Sending out a mass invite to a Zoom meeting doesn't strike me as being a very good way to build a relationship. You have to show the coaches some love, focus on them 1:1, not 1:100
 
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Sending out a mass invite to a Zoom meeting doesn't strike me as being a very good way to build a relationship. You have to show the coaches some love, focus on them 1:1, not 1:100
That's her job, I'm sure she will figure it out.
 
I thought we were done with this??? I am friends with the I-West coach. He said he was the only coach that attended the zoom meeting for Bellamy and they talked for about 40 minutes and build a relationship. And idk...having all your in state coaches in a zoom meeting seems like a pretty good time to sell your program to me. They are sure doing something right in FL. They would not do the right things in FL and the wrong things in IL unless there was a good reason. What misinformation have I personally brought? I'm no insider. I hear things every now and then and share when I do.
you are spot on. Their efforts are elsewhere which is fine. Especially if they are landing the recruits. I just don’t understand the need to window dress the desire to recruit in state when reality shows differently. Making up BS about in state coaches just to camouflage the desire to recruit elsewhere. As long as you win, who cares where the kids are coming from. No need to lie about it.
 
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What position was it for? I was all for Hawthorne or Chris James in staff. Trust me I do not think the staff has done great in state and the way they went about things. Not all on them though either.
The High School relations job was mentioned before however I am not exactly sure which two jobs he interviewed for.
 
I didn't appreciate your assumption that I must be on the Lovie must go train, so I felt I had to reply. I agree having all the in state coaches on for a zoom call would be great for Illinois, I just don't see what benefit the high school coaches would get out of it. Out of respect for your contributions to this board, to answer your question, @Positive illini fan has said that this post of yours was misinformation (in other words, this was not the invitation sent):
That is fair. They literally said to contact Washington if interested. To me it seems like a meet in the middle. They are giving an opportunity. Positive (who has a very good connection) and would likely be able to find out what the staff did also said they sent invites out to every school. Not sure where the misinformation is there. Then Title says Sunkett never got one. To me it sounds like our typical in state mess. Maybe Sunkett didn't get one and Illinois has decided to cut ties? Idk.
 
Those are very interesting. And I am not saying that Title is wrong about some things he is saying. But this is a two way street in state. Lovie and the Illini staff need to put more of an effort in, but the high school coaches haven't made it easy on him. Especially Sunkett and Chicago coaches.
What more do you think Sunkett and other coaches should do? What do you think they are not doing that they should be doing?
 
you are spot on. Their efforts are elsewhere which is fine. Especially if they are landing the recruits. I just don’t understand the need to window dress the desire to recruit in state when reality shows differently. Making up BS about in state coaches just to camouflage the desire to recruit elsewhere. As long as you win, who cares where the kids are coming from. No need to lie about it.
What is the staff dressing up and lying about though? Honest question. You think they just have no desire to recruit their own state? Just makes no sense to me.
 
What is the staff dressing up and lying about though? Honest question. You think they just have no desire to recruit their own state? Just makes no sense to me.
Then why hire a Texas person to help with relationships in Illinois? That doesn't make sense to me. Would you hire a high school coach from Chicago to recruit the Trinity kids from St. Louis? When they wanted kids out of Florida they hired a Coach from Florida. When they wanted kids from Texas, they hired people from Texas. Not sure why this is difficult to understand.
 
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