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You seem to be implying that none of these guys can play at the P5 level. What are your football credentials?
Tarique Barnes looked pretty good as a true freshman. Can’t speak on the others because they haven’t played yet, but I’m sure if you look past the stars and he sees that we’re bringing in linebackers who are 6’2 and run in the 4.5s I don’t think he minds
Don't know why you are critiquing me here. My football credentials? Very minimal. If this is your really your stance, you should be critiquing every other LB coach in the country at a Power 5 school who didn't think these kids could play at their school for one reason or another. Is your argument going to be that Miles Smith is a brilliant talent evaluator?
Barnes did have moments last year, and I think Gardner will surprise as well. I think Barnes will get a chance to start next year. But I would argue that this "diamond in the rough" approach doesn't lead to much longevity.
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For this defense to work we need long linebackers with speed, we aren't going to be hitting on the complete package guys since we aren't bama or osu, so getting the 3 star commits that fit the mold is the obvious move. You haven't given Miles time to prove anything, you've just automatically called him a failure is the problem the other posters and I have.
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I'm going to go ahead and add on that Shammond was VERY undersized last year. He wasn't getting playing time at any of the schools mentioned. This year though..... he will see the field
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Ran the 40 in 4.52 last year at an opening regional. Yep he is athletic
Funny his timeline shows he picked up a Navy offer right after he committed to us
And just for Shammond comparisons
Shammond out of HS - Shuttle 4.65 and Verticle 31.40 only verified results. Listed 6'2 195
Kalen V Shuttle 4.32 and 4.32 Verticles 39.1 and 40.50 Verified 6'1 206
Talent and instincts are a whole separate conversation. But he is not being surrounded with incapable athletes
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Not critiquing you at all. You are just being highly critical and wanted to know who you played for and where you coached. Was confused about your level of expertise.
Just got done watching his film. Gotta be honest, it’s a flyer. He’s athletic yes, but isn’t polished at all. He wasn’t even playing LB most of last year, cause on his film he looked about 185. It’s basically the same thing as basketball did with lieb, take a guy with traits (height being lieb, speed and size with Kalen) and put them through the S&C programs and when they are a redshirt JR see what you have. I will give the staff chances when it comes to flyers on LB’s and DB’s. They tend to hit on a lot of them (Barnes, Witherspoon, brown, Hobbs, Hansen, green)
I take this kid in a heartbeat. He has a camp timed 4.5 and 40” vertical. His measurable aren’t just P5, these are 5* that would be good in an NFL combine right now traits.
You can see from his timeline that he has put on 40lbs of muscle in last 2 years. He is a late bloomer. Also seems to be there academically given his bio and service academy offers.
Obviously he could just suck at football and maybe doesn’t pan out, but I don’t see any reason to believe this kid isn’t a solid add
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Theodore Lockely (2021 "Commit") briefly had a tweet up saying "Recruitment is 100% open btw." Was just taken down though.
I don’t know much about what football talent looks like, but I know for years we’ve been crazy about Wisconsin basketball recruits to their system and then killus with skilled bigs who weren’t necessarily highly regarded high school players.
What if, Lovie knows what he’s looking for and is doing the same thing?
What if, Lovie knows what he’s looking for and is doing the same thing?
Maybe if he played better than Barnes did his frosh year???
2021 offers and rankings are very tough. No spring or summer camps are impacting everything in regards to those offers and rankings. Except for those that were already very highly ranked, we can't really look at very much. The difference in a kid between the ages of 16 and 17 or, 17 and 18, can be enormous!
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That would be a fantastic scenario, but until we prove that to be the case with consistent winning, the questions will remain.
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I'm not sure if this has been posted before but I saw this and thought it was interesting.
Kreutz commits! Hell yeah! Huge get.
redwingillini11
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YAAAAAAAS!!!!!! This one feels AWESOME!
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(AND HE IS FROM ILLINOIS
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Pretty much, Just because we reach Columbus in 290 miles doesn't mean we are even in-contact with the talent there....
He is committed to UCLA
I see that..
Ric Flair tweet from Rod Smith; for Kreutz or someone else?
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