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The Porter's have 3 younger sons that will be coming up. Plus Mike and Jontay have two older sisters who play/played on the women's team. Their aunt is the women's head coach. Columbia has always been home for them. Don't see them leaving. They wanted to get back to Columbia while they were in Seattle
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I actually went through the AP top-25 and went through each coach's records. The results are that about 12 of the 25 coaches had starts at their current schools that resembled Underwood's difficult first year at Illinois. I only listed some of them. I did not list Coach K, because that has been beaten to death. But I also didn't list guys like Dan Hurley, Randy Bennett, and Sampscum.
Outside of the top-25, there are plenty of other examples of very good coaches who had rough starts. Dana Altman, Buzz Williams, Leonard Hamilton......there are lots of others who started very successful tenures with a very rocky start.
When approximately half of your current top-25 coaches -- and a bunch of other quality coaches outside of the top-25 -- have had a minimum of one bad season to open their tenures, then perhaps it's illustrative of a larger point we ought to consider.
The flip side is, lots of bad coaches also had bad starts to their tenures because, after all, they're bad. Time will tell which category BU fits in to. But the point is that bad seasons don't require a PR campaign to fix.
so thats 5 boys and 2 girl Porters. Thats alot of b-ball talent in one family....and it appears they are locked into Mizzou family. Dad Porter's individual development of his kids is pretty impressive.
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haasi
- New York
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Good question. I’ll put the over under at 1.5. 3 open now, 4 if Vesel leaves. Def expecting to add PG and wing. Can’t imagine BU would leave 3 open - very short bench. staff casts wide net recruiting and makes a lot of offers, some of which seem to materialize quickly. In addition to bringing in PG and wing for position balance, I’d expect to bring in a JC or fifth year who can contribute immediately and will provide some class balance- so we’re more competitive this year and don’t have more than 5 freshmen in the class.
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Good question. I’ll put the over under at 1.5. 3 open now, 4 if Vesel leaves. Def expecting to add PG and wing. Can’t imagine BU would leave 3 open - very short bench. staff casts wide net recruiting and makes a lot of offers, some of which seem to materialize quickly. In addition to bringing in PG and wing for position balance, I’d expect to bring in a JC or fifth year who can contribute immediately and will provide some class balance- so we’re more competitive this year and don’t have more than 5 freshmen in the class.
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haasi
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illini80
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They have been trying to get him to visit. My guess is that will happen, but I still don't think we land him. Can't blame them for trying as long as we have a solid backup plan.
Frank Martin jumping in the Ramey sweepstakes rather late with a visit to Ramey yesterday. Maybe Frank is getting guidance from Tugs Bowen on how best to recruit ex-Louisville commits.
Martin isn't just starting the process. He has been to see him before.
Yeah, if I would have checked 247, I would have seen he's been there a couple of times before.
I don't think anyone knows where they stand with Ramey. Coaches continue to take their shot, because he is really good. Papa is giving them encouraging feedback, including our coaches. I won't believe he is serious until they (father plus son) show up on campus.
Excellent attempt at starting a rumor, nice work.
Hearing this as well. Staff trying like heck to get him here for a visit. Mizzou supposedly cooling.
The next couple commits are the reason we pushed a few out the door. Doing work on the recruiting trail... Give it a few more weeks for it to all play out...
haasi
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Ward once played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun, and won
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illini80
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Chuck Norris once played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun, and the gun lost.
Christopher Walken.... oh never mind
ivwilsoniv
- Aurora, IL
Groce did not greatly overachieve that season; at the very least, he simply "achieved.' That was a very talented team. Brandon Paul is now in the NBA, and they had skilled players at every position. Let's not reinvent the narrative here. If you compare the roster that Underwood started with in 2017 vs. the roster that Groce started with in 2012, it's not even close. That 2012-2013 team was ranked as high as #10 in the country at one point (back when Illinois was relevant nationally), and during Groce's tenure, Illinois became completely irrelevant.
Although both oversaw a precipitous fall from the point when they entered as coach to the point when they left, the program was left in a much worse position at the end of Groce's tenure than it was during Weber's.
Ah the good ole' ward kiss of death.
That said we could really use a few commits from the group of Jones/Hinson/Ramey and a solid big man transfer.
That happens, and things will be looking up. Without some more solid pieces coming in though, it's hard to see next year going too smoothly.
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