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Here we go !! Andrew Trainer played basketball (All-IAC and team captain)
http://fightingillini.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6716
Haha, nice find!
Here we go !! Andrew Trainer played basketball (All-IAC and team captain)
http://fightingillini.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6716
What’s worse - losing a guy to Weber State, or our fans rationalizing why a guy would pick Weber State?
We are going to win more games this year than last year
We are going to win more games this year than last year
Either the coaches have something secret in the bag or something is broken.
Whats a joke is that this team doesn't even have players to scrimmage, and some are worried about appearances and offers...hell we got what 60 offers + out from this year through what 2020...and how many last year?
Get some bodies, reality is the need is there, but the want to be here is not...find those that want to be here. At least that has been the mantra of the staff and the players that are here. Regardless of position and ranking BU will take whomever, weather you or I think a offer from 4-5 years ago is a valid indicator. The discussion is good however.
Small ball approach works best when you still have a rim protector like Draymond.
I don't see Giorgi or Kipper being that guy. Kane is it (although he's not small obviously) if he still makes it to campus which, until he shows, is no guarantee.
Yes, this is cause for worry. You have to believe the staff did everything they reasonably could to ensure he was here, and yet, he's not. What's going to change? A thin frontcourt turns into a desert without him.
"this last 6 weeks has been an embarrassment"
The number of offers this late is pretty unusual, but not closing any is a head-shaker. Sure looks like we're in full rebuild mode. Just hope the guys we have can bring us back.
There is absolutely no good spins here. This is a complete and total miss by this staff. Even if they want to play small ball (they do), you need to at least fill out the dang roster. It gets old watching people transfer out of this school.
BU needs to take a good hard look at his "motivational" tactics. It just doesn't work anymore. I was embarrassed for the entire program when he was ripping into his guys on tv. Just not acceptable. Just like a good manager, punish in private, praise in public.
There were several times where he threw people under the bus last year. Kipper would have transferred out too was the rumor but couldn't miss more time off.
Frustrating.
Going from Groce to Underwood is going to have an impact on 20yr old kids. Personally I think BU's demeanor is refreshing. You can't get rid of a losing attitude that has developed over 4 years very easily. He can probably dial it back once the guys on the team help leading from within.
I agree to an extent. Groce's penchant of using Winnie the Pooh terminology in discussing team leadership (e.g. Tiggers vs. Eeyores) was saccharin and infantilizing, and I think it was indicative of his general coaching approach. Underwood is certainly the opposite.
Like you I hope he is able to tone it down some. This last year he seemed to keep the dial at 11 much of the time. I'm not against a stern tone when needed, but when they're repeatedly showing clips of the coach ripping into players, it's not a good look and it does not inspire confidence in one's leadership.
I agree to an extent. Groce's penchant of using Winnie the Pooh terminology in discussing team leadership (e.g. Tiggers vs. Eeyores) was saccharin and infantilizing, and I think it was indicative of his general coaching approach. Underwood is certainly the opposite.
Like you I hope he is able to tone it down some. This last year he seemed to keep the dial at 11 much of the time. I'm not against a stern tone when needed, but when they're repeatedly showing clips of the coach ripping into players, it's not a good look and it does not inspire confidence in one's leadership.
Going from Groce to Underwood is going to have an impact on 20yr old kids. Personally I think BU's demeanor is refreshing. You can't get rid of a losing attitude that has developed over 4 years very easily. He can probably dial it back once the guys on the team help leading from within.
were generally fun to watch.
Totally see what you're saying from a public-perception standpoint. But off camera I'm sure there's a ton of uplifting coaching going on and the players are well aware it's tough love. However you look at last year, this team showed a lot of grit, competed, fought tooth & nail, and were generally fun to watch. That is all Underwood. Regarding the whole Michigan State incident, I don't blame the guy for going off. We forced 25 turnovers against Sparty that night, which is the most giveaways they'd had since 2005. They were impossibly superior than us in all facets, and we were right there with them at half-time- in a position to steal our first conference W. Then we came out sleep walking to start the half, went 1-9 and game-over. I was just as livid watching that. *If* Underwood finds players that match and mesh with his intensity, we will be killers.
To be clear, it is impossible to say for certain that Underwood's coaching style is the direct cause of our current recruiting woes. It would be a bad argument to make, unless we had quotes from recruits who spurned us saying as much.