Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

Mad Scientist
Arizona, USA
And still he was massively better than any/all of the PGs Groce pulled.
That's probably not entirely fair. Groce pulled in Trent Frazier originally. He was just fired before Trent could play for him. Also, Te'Jon Lucas is having a pretty good career now. It's hard to say how he would have compared had he stayed in a major conference.

Otherwise, I agree.
 
Los Angeles
To be clear - Curbelo isn't a very good deep ball shooter right? I think that's where the hard stop is regarding Nash, CP3, Brunson etc.

Snider seems like a great comp at the same stage.
 
That's probably not entirely fair. Groce pulled in Trent Frazier originally. He was just fired before Trent could play for him. Also, Te'Jon Lucas is having a pretty good career now. It's hard to say how he would have compared had he stayed in a major conference.

Otherwise, I agree.
Well stated on Lucas, is you compare the numbers, Lucas is actually better overall,...that said there is this slight thing called quality of opponents and such.
 
So we seem to be halfway there to having a solid Caribbean pipeline going thanks to OA. Did he get many of these kids to go to UK??? My memory isn't the greatest but I am thinking no.... I don't recall there being (m)any players from there being 5 star type players, so they wouldn't likely fit the UK persona. But if we can extend/keep OA here and reel in the Pinzon/Jones/Reyes types I think we can make a legitimate claim to having an established pipeline. If this were to become a thing I honestly think we can build ourselves into a Gonzaga clone of sorts! What do you think???
 
So we seem to be halfway there to having a solid Caribbean pipeline going thanks to OA. Did he get many of these kids to go to UK??? My memory isn't the greatest but I am thinking no.... I don't recall there being (m)any players from there being 5 star type players, so they wouldn't likely fit the UK persona. But if we can extend/keep OA here and reel in the Pinzon/Jones/Reyes types I think we can make a legitimate claim to having an established pipeline. If this were to become a thing I honestly think we can build ourselves into a Gonzaga clone of sorts! What do you think???
Off the top of my head, I'm fairly certain Karl-Anthony Towns is at least part Dominican.
 
Mom was from there, but KAT was born in NJ. That counts though.....
 
Exactly...keep it up staff!
Of course we wouldn't do as well as them you realize, there is the whole conference thing and all...... But I would absolutely be ecstatic if we could field a team of as talented players year in, and year out, as Gonzaga does. :thumb:
 
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Baltimore, MD
So we seem to be halfway there to having a solid Caribbean pipeline going thanks to OA. Did he get many of these kids to go to UK??? My memory isn't the greatest but I am thinking no.... I don't recall there being (m)any players from there being 5 star type players, so they wouldn't likely fit the UK persona. But if we can extend/keep OA here and reel in the Pinzon/Jones/Reyes types I think we can make a legitimate claim to having an established pipeline. If this were to become a thing I honestly think we can build ourselves into a Gonzaga clone of sorts! What do you think???
I was repping illini gear regularly between 2014-2018 in Puerto Rico, you guys are welcome
 
Well stated on Lucas, is you compare the numbers, Lucas is actually better overall,...that said there is this slight thing called quality of opponents and such.
What numbers are you comparing? Lucas is averaging 16 points at 26% usage in a conference where the best team is worse than every team in the Big Ten except Nebraska. Frazier is averaging 9.5 points at 15% usage. Sure, Lucas has a higher assist rate, but his turnover rate is almost 10% higher.

I have no ill-will toward Lucas and I'm glad he's found success after Illinois. But given the choice between the two, I'll take Frazier every time.
 
What numbers are you comparing? Lucas is averaging 16 points at 26% usage in a conference where the best team is worse than every team in the Big Ten except Nebraska. Frazier is averaging 9.5 points at 15% usage. Sure, Lucas has a higher assist rate, but his turnover rate is almost 10% higher.

I have no ill-will toward Lucas and I'm glad he's found success after Illinois. But given the choice between the two, I'll take Frazier every time.

Trent would Kendrick-Nunn the Horizon league. No comparison between he and Lucas IMO who was no more than a replacement level BIG PG.